Another bug in the Malak „solution“?

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

@Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

bc they didn't want to get people upset? ;-)

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

"Kyno;c-1993304" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

The other poster said “they don’t know how to fix it” not “they don’t know how to remove the mods”. You just stated that they don’t know how to fix it without causing more issues. If your “fix” creates more issues regarding the subject you are trying to “fix” then you aren’t “fixing” anything. So no, they don’t know “how to fix it”

"Eweff;c-1993316" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993304" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

The other poster said “they don’t know how to fix it” not “they don’t know how to remove the mods”. You just stated that they don’t know how to fix it without causing more issues. If your “fix” creates more issues regarding the subject you are trying to “fix” then you aren’t “fixing” anything. So no, they don’t know “how to fix it”

Or likely the fix is to roll the entire db back to the day before the event and destroy all progress from then until now. Sometimes the real fix is not worth pursuing. Just because they can fix it doesn't mean they should from a time or cost perspective

"Kyno;c-1993304" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

Sorry, but „I/we don’t even try to explain because all of you won’t believe us, so I just tell you it’s very simple but they won’t do it anyway is...well...kindergarden. They messed up, messed up the rollback and now mess up the communication with the community. Remember the discussion we had 2 days ago? Here in this discussion you have the perfect example for what I wanted to try to tell you.

Here is an obscure post from a forum outside the forum which you must track an monitor much like this forum and with no proper "dev tracker".

This is not "INTENDED" this is a "side-effect, or Unintended Result, or workaround for the programmers"

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

"Myriddan;c-1993321" wrote:

"Eweff;c-1993316" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993304" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

The other poster said “they don’t know how to fix it” not “they don’t know how to remove the mods”. You just stated that they don’t know how to fix it without causing more issues. If your “fix” creates more issues regarding the subject you are trying to “fix” then you aren’t “fixing” anything. So no, they don’t know “how to fix it”

Or likely the fix is to roll the entire db back to the day before the event and destroy all progress from then until now. Sometimes the real fix is not worth pursuing. Just because they can fix it doesn't mean they should from a time or cost perspective

I guess we just have a different understanding of what “knowing how to fix it” means

"Kyno;c-1993304" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

So, if I am understanding you correctly, the resulted 6* mods staying on Malak was not necessarily the intent, but due to the amount of work it would take (especially given the short amount of time before GAC lock) and the possible issues it would create, was simply a consequence that had to be accepted.

Incidentally, your point and take on it is completely believable - and not at all "intended" as Crumb seemed to indicate.

Nice strawman by you on the "dishonest drivel" comment dig by you by the way. If you're going to quote me, at least keep it in context. You're better than that.

"Eweff;c-1993343" wrote:

"Myriddan;c-1993321" wrote:

"Eweff;c-1993316" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993304" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993299" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993154" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1993145" wrote:

"Noxfire27;c-1993099" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1993095" wrote:

"Gilgasmash;c-1993056" wrote:
Don't let this thread die, as this is a huge problem in the game now: Players, who shouldn`t be able to equip 6*-mods, have an advantage at the moment (up to +7 speed, higher offense/defense-stats and so on). Also, some players still have g12-gear, whereas their Malak's only a 6*. This has to be fixed immediately.

The mods are stated to be intended, probably the same for the gear.

Just because they say it’s „intended“ doesn’t mean it’s somewhere fair And/or a good solution. its just not right. And leaves a very bad taste after this huge Malak mess.

Let's be honest - in this case, "intended" just means they don't know how to fix it. They certainly didn't say " How about we let bugged Malaks keep 6* mods". "Intended" is just spin to cover ineptitude. It was never intended. As far as I'm concerned, we don't need more communication if it's going to be dishonest drivel like that.

That's not true, but I know I'm not going to convince anyone of that. The reason is far simpler than that.

Kyno
Care to elaborate? If it's simple, then by all means, explain. Or have you also been reduced to vague, non-committal "communication" as well?

They know how to fix it, it is that simple. They didnt due to the work involved and the idea that they wanted to touch our rosters as little as possible.

It would have created way more "work" to get things back to actual square 1 (before the event) and would have created more issues to do this. They knew (I believe they knew from how they talk about it) this would be the final state of things.

The point of me being vague is that I don't expect anyone to care, as apparently any communication on this matter has been reduced to "dishonest drivel".

The other poster said “they don’t know how to fix it” not “they don’t know how to remove the mods”. You just stated that they don’t know how to fix it without causing more issues. If your “fix” creates more issues regarding the subject you are trying to “fix” then you aren’t “fixing” anything. So no, they don’t know “how to fix it”

Or likely the fix is to roll the entire db back to the day before the event and destroy all progress from then until now. Sometimes the real fix is not worth pursuing. Just because they can fix it doesn't mean they should from a time or cost perspective

I guess we just have a different understanding of what “knowing how to fix it” means

That would be the easiest fix and not possible. The true "fix" to get everyone to the right gear and mods etc, probably is not possible in an automated way unless they build something new, and the time/ cost of doing so for a one off issue is not worth it.