Anyone else find this raid unfun?

It's like getting caught in the waves and beaten down repeatedly until it finally puts you out of your misery.

HAAT had 4 distinct phases that offered something different, not just for the main toon but surrounding toons involved in that phase.

P1 - Greivous and his mega debuffs but controlling b2 and magnaguard counters/taunts gave it a real strategic element.

P2 - The tank has multiple attacks, three canons to cause topple, another that can instakill etc.

P3 - Rocketman and his minions, a cannon that requires buffs at the right time, a minion buff that can cause almost instant death if left unchecked.

P4 - an extension of p2 with battledroids and a risk/reward element in tegards to topple.

What does the Sith Raid give us?

P1 - grind what you can before veing destroyed
P2 - see above
P3 - see above
P4 - see above

The minions don't even add anything of significance to the phases, they're just there for the sake of it (no those meh phase abilities don't justify them)

The only teams of any use are ones who are meant to be together with high synergy. Doesn't that take half the fun out of theory crafting? Set teams for this phase, set teams for this phase, set teams...etc

And that means if you want to do anything in this raid you have to grind whole teams who are otherwise not useful - for each phase.

I find the idea of preparing and participating in this raid mentally exhausting and that's only t5.

Hard pass. I'll just scrape what I can on auto and that will do. Not like it will make any difference to my score.

As a fan of the kotor series I think the raid has great potential but is implimented horribly. Especially phase 1 where DN basically has a soft or hard counter to 90% of meta toon mechanics. That's topping off the fact that the tier descriptions don't matchup at all with the difficulty. Like on tier 4 my g11, 7*, leven 85 rebels are doing ~.05% damage per attack on a tier supposidly balanced for 4*, g8, level 70 toons. When my toons exceed the tier description by so much I expect they'd be doing 2-5% damage per attack and I can't imagine how impossibly long it would take with toons that only meet the tier minimum.

This raid seems to loose sight of what makes this game fun I. The first place. Finding the right combination of character abilities that enable defeat. No one wants to, or even has time to, devote so much of thier real resources on one raid with mediocre rewards.

You now what's sad? Half my guild hasn't even put any damage in our t5 raid because they say it's no fun. They tell me, "I'm going to get 0-50k in damage, so why bother?"

And that's coming from guys with a gp over 1.8 million!

Yep. I auto without a care for the damage output.

Rewards suck anyway.

I don’t got time to play for 20 minutes figuring out which button to hit next and if I mess up I get wiped. Such a bore.

I think people are missing the point that you aren't supposed to do a large amount of damage with one team, no matter how far over the recommended you are. Did 2%? good. Now if your guild members do the same, phase is done.

I would be down for it being more like TB where rewards are equal tho. That'd be dope

The mechanic is terrible, many conflict in abilities there. Causing many chars can't work as expected. Then it's wording game for someone who expect explanation on why char A like that, why char B like that, etc.

Also, it's force guild to MUST HAVE JTR team. Maybe it's fun for gigantic guild, but no fun at all for smaller guild.

I see the point in making it tough I do. But when your taking away every feature that a faction has going for it I..expose what's the point? Why not make more toons viable by giving them more mechanics other than stripping then away. Diversity should be fun not a bother. Deathmark is a great mechanic but it is limited to one toon. Also the phases are all out of whack, nilly is impossible while the others are, meh. Heroic should be hard to get but it should not be limited to whale guilds, they are already getting all the tb/tw good rewards. Why make a raid so specific that it takes toons behind a paywall to win as well. If Cg keeps doing this they are going to lose a bunch of loyal devoted players that love this game. Oh and you can also tell that some of the people who voted no did so by accident(see above comment) lol. I bet this raid has a 90% disapproval rating. Great job on tw/tb, but continue to step it up, don't just throw massively overpowered raid bosses at us.

It destroys the spirit of a guild: strong members pull weaker members.