Best team to counter new empire team with Krennic and Death Trooper?

"scuba;877406" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877381" wrote:

"Darth_Jay77;877364" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

How fast is your JE?

234 without the bonus

"scuba;877372" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Well i have K-2SO, so he will soak up the daze until all the main threats are gone. But your right, it can mess you up if you dont have K-2SO.

Dt hits K2 with basic dazes him then hits him again and stuns him, k2 is a rebel after all. K2 taunt is gone and he is stunned with taunt gone.

There should also be a change coming so daze is applied before damage so even if K2 doesn't get stunned the daze will stop his counter and prevent him from regaining taunt.

Good thing is having K2 you can daze Dt to stop his TM gain.

Yeah once K2 is Dazed he's not countering you and that taunt doesn't work. Or if TFP lands buff immunity it doesn't matter either. I think Empire and Rebels have good balance against each other, it'll come down to who has better mods and RNG.

"Darth_Jay77;877397" wrote:

"scuba;877372" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Droids could possibly work, my opinion.
1. JE must be faster than TFP, it's easy to get TFP very fast. My TFP has gone first over JEs in the tournaments so it's not hard.
2. Krennic must be ability blocked and DT killed ASAP
3. If a kill is made or Krennic not blocked its over

Killing DT first is not a good idea since krennic can revive him. And also while your killing DT with his ton of health your getting nailed by anyone else they have. So its best to save them for last

"scuba;877406" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877381" wrote:

"Darth_Jay77;877364" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

How fast is your JE?

234 without the bonus

"scuba;877372" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Well i have K-2SO, so he will soak up the daze until all the main threats are gone. But your right, it can mess you up if you dont have K-2SO.

Dt hits K2 with basic dazes him then hits him again and stuns him, k2 is a rebel after all. K2 taunt is gone and he is stunned with taunt gone.

There should also be a change coming so daze is applied before damage so even if K2 doesn't get stunned the daze will stop his counter and prevent him from regaining taunt.

Good thing is having K2 you can daze Dt to stop his TM gain.

I forgot K2 was a rebel lol, and even if he is stunned its only 1 turn, so not THAT game changing. But still, DT will never go before K2 in a droid squad.

Killing DT first is not a good idea since krennic can revive him. Both of them must be saved for last.

That's why Krennic needs to be ability blocked or it's over and I get it, that's total RNG. It'll be almost impossible to kill Krennic with DT present. DT removes all buffs and does massive damage with Krennic alive and debuffed characters, which TFP can do on the first turn. If Krennic staggers the droids, he calls DT to hit one of them which removes 100% TM, then if you have Vader follow-up with his AOE to hit remaining staggers, the remaining 4 lose TM and now they're likely slowed too. Droids will not recover from that. I think droids can possibly do it but they need favorable RNG and JE must be faster than TFP.

"sjkerhfgdjhd;877430" wrote:
Zeta Vader lead should counter Deathnic fairly easily. All the empire AOE will keep anyone but the Deathtrooper from going until its 5 on 3 or 2. And if he runs Zeta Vader lead himself he is going to be sacrificing Palp's AOE stun and Boba's AOE ability block, DOTs, taunt ignore, and revive to put in Deathnic. It might be a better team, but I'm not too sure of it, and it certainly wouldn't be enough better for the AI to defend.

As long as i see less rebel teams, idgaf. And if they make sith teams less common that would be good too :)

"STRIKEBOMB;877435" wrote:

"sjkerhfgdjhd;877430" wrote:
Zeta Vader lead should counter Deathnic fairly easily. All the empire AOE will keep anyone but the Deathtrooper from going until its 5 on 3 or 2. And if he runs Zeta Vader lead himself he is going to be sacrificing Palp's AOE stun and Boba's AOE ability block, DOTs, taunt ignore, and revive to put in Deathnic. It might be a better team, but I'm not too sure of it, and it certainly wouldn't be enough better for the AI to defend.

As long as i see less rebel teams, ****. And if they make sith teams less common that would be good too :)

Dude, they're most likely introducing Revan and Nihilus, Sith will become very common unless they're Aurodium / Chromium only. LOL

"Darth_Jay77;877483" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877435" wrote:

"sjkerhfgdjhd;877430" wrote:
Zeta Vader lead should counter Deathnic fairly easily. All the empire AOE will keep anyone but the Deathtrooper from going until its 5 on 3 or 2. And if he runs Zeta Vader lead himself he is going to be sacrificing Palp's AOE stun and Boba's AOE ability block, DOTs, taunt ignore, and revive to put in Deathnic. It might be a better team, but I'm not too sure of it, and it certainly wouldn't be enough better for the AI to defend.

As long as i see less rebel teams, ****. And if they make sith teams less common that would be good too :)

Dude, they're most likely introducing Revan and Nihilus, Sith will become very common unless they're Aurodium / Chromium only. LOL

Yeah i know, but what i meant was that i hope people will choose empire teams over sith teams :)

zMaul imo. Mods being equal, palp will go faster than a tfp under krennic, giving you the opening advantage. A fast shore trooper will also help to make you immune to the thing that makes krennic so deadly

"Darth_Jay77;877397" wrote:

"scuba;877372" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Droids could possibly work, my opinion.
1. JE must be faster than TFP, it's easy to get TFP very fast. My TFP has gone first over JEs in the tournaments so it's not hard.
2. Krennic must be ability blocked and DT killed ASAP
3. If a kill is made or Krennic not blocked its over

JE, in a full droid/jawa team, is at 203 before mods. That's 33 faster than TFP. So it's only possible to get TFP faster if you have far superior mods.

"Indominable_J;877550" wrote:

"Darth_Jay77;877397" wrote:

"scuba;877372" wrote:

"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Droids could possibly work, my opinion.
1. JE must be faster than TFP, it's easy to get TFP very fast. My TFP has gone first over JEs in the tournaments so it's not hard.
2. Krennic must be ability blocked and DT killed ASAP
3. If a kill is made or Krennic not blocked its over

JE, in a full droid/jawa team, is at 203 before mods. That's 33 faster than TFP. So it's only possible to get TFP faster if you have far superior mods.

It's possible, my guild leader has 291 TFP. LOL. Mine can be 270 pretty easily. I would say that in general JE will be faster but what I saw in the last Arena Tournaments, that was not always the case. Even in some of the higher ranked Droid squads I ran across, shocking.

Just 7* JKL (Jedi Knight Luke, green saber) as fast as you can when he drops. You know for a fact he's going to have anti empire synergy that will wreck these weak toons. You should have a decent Empire team built up in case he's a boss event like Yoda (who needs a rework BAD) and EP.