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WrathofCaedus's avatar
WrathofCaedus
8 years ago

Cantina Lord Shard

To all the random guild teams working within their " agreement" discord chat, many of you have had chats with me & others I've yet to contact; Here's something to think about... how fair do you think you're being treated?

I get why you'd join, their work within our rules or else policy, but take a look at how other shards run. You're not gaining here, you're actually helping them maintain their hold by submitting. FYI for some of you, the discord chat is a joke, their real shard chat is their guild chat. This shard is 1 of the most unfair I've heard of, and I'm certainly aware of the consequences of speaking out...

Please know I never did anything to CL except reject their insulting offer of joining. At the time they didn't work with any others & only did now because of the offense strong arena. I've never encouraged attacking only them as a guild, excluding any random teams, and I'd certainly never encourage ganging up on one person simply out of spite or some fear of losing control of an entire shard.

These payout times are there so many teams can hit top ranks throughout the day, not so the same players can remain in those spots blocking others from gain.

A fair shard cycles those ranks, ppl with the same payout work a rotation, and ppl don't target those with a payout coming up. Of course this takes communication and effort but a larger number of players are able to gain the most without giving EA more crystals. That is how I want our shard run. All of you within the top 50 are able to take rank 1 on a normal shard. Think about that while you're eating your CL table scraps.

My shard would be open to all, CL included should they choose. The same handful of ppl would not be seen in the top 10 24hrs/day, nor should they. As virtually any top 50 team is capable of rank 1 the only way this happens is via collusion. They give you 5 battles, it's easy to use those 5 to go from ranks in the high 30s to the top spots. Even easier when working together as a shard.

With a meta shift coming soon I look forward to seeing your many new teams, as well as the end of Rex... I'll be taking things a little more lightly, in PvP, as I prepare my own toons. But I'll still be trying not to hurt anyone else's climb.

If this is the type of shard you'd like to bee a part of then by all means please contact me. If you'd just like to share payouts that's fine as well. I suggest looking on forum at the ways Most shards work and you'll see how drastically wrong our shard is currently.

As I said, I've tried working with Cantina lords, and never did anything other than question their exploit of the PvP system. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know this is not what was intended.

Side note: For those hoping, and willing to work together, towards a more fair/better PvP cooperative set up... If we're on the same page, due to the way discord works that allows others to see groups you're in or the potential for that ( I don't wish anyone else to be targeted the way I am for wanting things to be more enjoyable & beneficial for all ), Line app would be required for chat until we've gotten in the same page.

I'm in for the long haul, and this is a long term goal, but it's worth the effort. Again, most of you know how to contact me & please spread the word where possible. The more the merrier. Or if you just wish to share payouts I'm fine with that much. Best of luck to all with the coming changes. I hope to hear from many of you.

  • WrathofCaedus's avatar
    WrathofCaedus
    8 years ago
    "ziccoit;c-1206887" wrote:
    "Kaytoo;c-1206554" wrote:
    Hi,

    PM if interested.

    Cheers ! :smile:


    Is this very difficult to comprehend?
    Why do you expect a different result when you keep on using the same method? Stirring the hornets nest should be left for the kids. Adult shouldn't be seen playing that game. My opinion.


    I think Krash made things quite clear, which was prob more honest. And I don't need to be part of your discord chat. I know your payouts, you know mine. Stop with the spiteful targeting & we wouldn't be having this conversation... again. I've taken great pains to let this die, avoiding any of you whose payout is close & only hitting those at the top when that time comes. I don't have guild members attacking you, & far outside their own payout, during your payout climbs. I get no response any time I reach out, and I can bump each thread I've made seeking a truce to prove as much, & then I get some fake invite to your discord chat... what did you expect? Just stop with this nonsense targeting & it'll be done. Its not that complicated. We don't need to like each other. Again, I don't need to be in your chat to make this happen.
  • CronozNL's avatar
    CronozNL
    8 years ago
    Calling a lockout cheating is funny. Imo people should get a warning or ban for falsely implying cheating. Comparing to counter strike is also illogical...
  • Dhichkyaon's avatar
    Dhichkyaon
    8 years ago
    Dude you are not being targeted. Most of us don't care. Nobody goes out of their way to hit you. Its just that while the average person would be mindful of another person'a payout whenever they play (either payout climb or using up remaining battles), they don't necessarily show the same courtesy to you because you pissed off too many people.

    I'm sorry if people don't take your "reaching out" seriously after you've spent months harassing people in PMs and pissing them off in game. Trust me, if we really wanted to collude against you things would be much worse, there are 25 people in our chat and you are one person, and every single one of us can beat you. The truth is we really don't have the time or energy to carry on a feud with you. Which is also why we have basically stopped responding to your threads or getting into arguments with you as well, with this thread being an exception.

    Also, you frankly have no locus to question our shard chat or how fair it is, every person in it has a shot at 1, most of them take 1, and everyone seems to be quite happy.

    Once more, this isn't a feud that you are "letting go". Nobody here is afraid of you, you have absolutely no bargaining power here. Like I said, most us of don't care and don't go out of our way to mess with you, its just that if you are in range and someone has to move up, they will not show you additional courtesy of a warning on discord or try to skip you due to payout concerns. I think that seems reasonable for someone who they may not be on best of terms with.

    I really think you should stop with your ranting and you misplaced sense of righteousness, on day 1 if you would have been friendly and forthcoming instead of accusing people of cheating for talking outside the game, and threatening to get people banned, all of this could have been avoided. Just move on and stop trying to insinuate stuff against others, it serves no purpose for anybody.

    @all CL folk, stop responding, don't feed the troll. Nobody on the forums matters except those who are on our shard. And those who are on our shard who have spoken to us know us personally, and know how much we have helped them in arena and overall. Those who haven't spoken to us previously can always reach out to us, we are always open to making new friends. This theatre of an argument is an exercise in futility.


  • WrathofCaedus's avatar
    WrathofCaedus
    8 years ago
    "Kaytoo;c-1207228" wrote:
    Dude you are not being targeted. Most of us don't care. Nobody goes out of their way to hit you. Its just that while the average person would be mindful of another person'a payout whenever they play (either payout climb or using up remaining battles), they don't necessarily show the same courtesy to you because you **** off too many people.

    I'm sorry if people don't take your "reaching out" seriously after you've spent months harassing people in PMs and **** them off in game. Trust me, if we really wanted to collude against you things would be much worse, there are 25 people in our chat and you are one person, and every single one of us can beat you. The truth is we really don't have the time or energy to carry on a feud with you. Which is also why we have basically stopped responding to your threads or getting into arguments with you as well, with this thread being an exception.

    Also, you frankly have no locus to question our shard chat or how fair it is, every person in it has a shot at 1, most of them take 1, and everyone seems to be quite happy.

    Once more, this isn't a feud that you are "letting go". Nobody here is afraid of you, you have absolutely no bargaining power here. Like I said, most us of don't care and don't go out of our way to mess with you, its just that if you are in range and someone has to move up, they will not show you additional courtesy of a warning on discord or try to skip you due to payout concerns. I think that seems reasonable for someone who they may not be on best of terms with.

    I really think you should stop with your ranting and you misplaced sense of righteousness, on day 1 if you would have been friendly and forthcoming instead of accusing people of cheating for talking outside the game, and threatening to get people banned, all of this could have been avoided. Just move on and stop trying to insinuate stuff against others, it serves no purpose for anybody.

    @all CL folk, stop responding, don't feed the troll. Nobody on the forums matters except those who are on our shard. And those who are on our shard who have spoken to us know us personally, and know how much we have helped them in arena and overall. Those who haven't spoken to us previously can always reach out to us, we are always open to making new friends. This theatre of an argument is an exercise in futility.




    You either seriously don't know, I don't remember having any issue with you, or you're just lying. I know every person in your discord and have no issue with any of them. I know they're payouts, they know mine, and we don't bother each other during climbs. I even directed some of them to your discord chat. The only ones that don't follow that are members of your guild. I have no beef with any of the others, quite the opposite in most cases.

    The only ones that haven't been reasonable are certain members of your guild... and I am most certainly targeted, I can prove that much. Let me bump the thread that started all this idiocy & you tell me who was being "reasonable"... in fact I can bump every thread I've stated quite easily. You're the ones who made yourselves look bad, not me, I didn't even name your guild in the first thread... you did that...

    Any PM I've sent, and there have not been many, have been a reaction to the spiteful targeting. It's not a secret.

    As far as thinking your afraid of me... that's just obsurd. Every team can be beat, especially when I'm currently running an outdated Zaul team while I focus on new team set ups. And I'm not trying to bargain.

    You may have 25 in your chat but only the ones in your guild lack the decency of fair play. I won't even say all, as it's not an issue with most. But please don't feed me this nonsense about there not being a collective effort by a certain handful of your guild members. Everyone knows better. If I'm not being hit during my climb, outside of their own payouts, they're busy hitting the ranks I need to climb with no intention of winning just to keep me from climbing. Spite begets spite. I think you must forget how this actually started... I'll bump that thread as a reminder (keep in mind that that thread was only started due to what I perceived as extortion... do as we say or else pay the price. This was before your discord chat which was only started after the meta shift to offense & you could no longer block all the newcomers.

    I never accused anything, I stated a very real possibility. Your guild was formed intentionally from the top ranks of this shard with the aim of controlling said top ranks. It's changed some due to offense & an inability to lock everyone out.

    There's no rotation of those ranks still, the way most other shards work, it's a free for all at payouts. Some of them crowded. You consistently keep have guild members in 5 to 10 of the top ranks. Basically making it so ppl have to work with you. You talk about effort & not putting any into collusion... doesn't take much effort when you ensure your guild members control most of the top ranks 24 hrs a day.

    I could continue but it's pointless. But don't delude yourself into thinking others don't see it. Like I said, I'm on good terms with everyone but certain members of your guild. Meta shift, the game evolves, and ppl remember.

    You talk about childish things and yet I'm willing to admit mistakes one both sides and start anew. Not as friends but as shard mates who have no choice about being stuck with each other. This isn't about intimidation on my part. My goal is simply for PvP on our shard to be just that, not player vs a guild. I'm willing, in spite of all the bad feelings, actions, and whatever... to clean the slate. To refuse & carry on is childish.

    But let me bump those threads as a reminder...

  • Dhichkyaon's avatar
    Dhichkyaon
    8 years ago
    Man, you are just paranoid now. Every time you get hit in arena its not someone colluding to keep you down. You have been disliked since long before those threads you are bumping all over the place. Back then there was a phase when you were spamming refreshes to try and stay top (and not just at your payout), and we helped some of our members take the top stop by kicking you down when you tried that. Other than a brief period back then when things were heated up and you would get kicked for fun, you have not been targeted in arena.

    You have never been extorted into joining any guild, no one has. Jokes like "if you can't beat em join em" are not an offer of recruitment. There are multiple people we have friendly relations with and who take 1 every day, often with our support, who are not in our guild and have no intention of being in our guild.

    We do not squat in the top 10 at all times, that's just wrong.We just have so many people, and so many different payout times, that someone will always be climbing. And we do have a rotation of payouts on all payouts except one (EST). This is what I said originally as well. All other payouts are amicable and are rotated as per agreements by those at those payouts. I don't know where you get your info, but you are clearly wrong.

    For why there may be animosity, you first threatened to get us banned for "colluding". It was never Hi, I am so and so, no let's be friends nothing. straight to bang bang. Then you tried to set up a counter group to target us. After that didn't work you tried to set up a rival shard chat. After that didn't work you are trying to kitten about us to people who are in our shard chat. Now all of this could have been avoided on day 1.

    In any case, I do not wish to continue this debate any further, I wish you good day and good luck.

    PS- okay I see you've just sent me a PM. I'll continue over there. This is my last message on ths thread.
    @CL folk- please refrain from commenting here please
  • WrathofCaedus's avatar
    WrathofCaedus
    8 years ago
    I've never spammed refreshes... at most I'll use 10 attacks per day. If I was blocking anyone's payout you could've just as easily contacted me. That's a 2 way street. And anyone in our shard can see its virtually always the same 6 or 7 of your members at the top. So they occasionally drop, sure, but then they're right back there mins later. And back then, I was trying to keep at least 1 non guild member in the top 10... I used my attacks during my climb and whatever was left over when I could fit them in... never more than 10 & rarely that many. Far from spamming & certainly no different than what your guild members were doing. You could've reached out but didn't. I can plead ignorance, I was new to the top & worked hard to get there. I didn't know how things go at that ranks, most new top rank ppl don't. You could've used your experience and reached out but you didn't, but yeah, this is clearly all my fault.

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