With the new upcoming Malak changes - "passive turnmeter" on opposing Sith characters will be made irrelevant. Is Sith Assassin's "Dark Shroud" ability considered "passive turnmeter"? The description says "Sith allies gain 12% turn meter for each buff on her". My understanding was that passive turnmeter was something that resulted from an indirect proc off of a leadership or a unique. An ability that specifically grants turn meter (i.e. this one, or Rex's Squad Discipline) doesn't seem to fall under that definition of "passive".Granted, I don't know the definitions and I'm going off of what logic tells me fits - but that seems right, correct?If it's not - then Sith Assassin serves no real purpose in the game (the Dark Shroud ability is what she is toned to use with the AI when available and is her key defining feature in any team she's featured in). I believe she would need a look at retooling her kit a bit, and perhaps giving the people who brought her to max gear a gear refund on her.Can @CG_SBCrumb gives us a bit of a clarification on this?

BTW - before anyone comes in and says I'm whining because I want gear on my Sith Assassin back - that's not the case. I have her maxed, yes - but I also run her with a 7* g12+5 Malak - so this is simply a clarification as to how Sith Assassin fits on teams now that she (seemingly inadvertently) no longer has a purpose after this nerf.

Also, ironically, I brought this up with @CG_SBCrumb during celebration stating that this finally gives Sith Assassin some time in the arena meta that she hasn't had since the zeta Maul days and he laughed about it. It's hilarious that this changes literally a day later. lol

"Broxxor;c-1836160" wrote:Also, ironically, I brought this up with @CG_SBCrumb during celebration stating that this finally gives Sith Assassin some time in the arena meta that she hasn't had since the zeta Maul days and he laughed about it. It's hilarious that this changes literally a day later. lolI think this post is important for observers of what's happening in the game.

If they changed the ability to state “ Sith enemies can’t gain PASSIVE bonus turn meter” this would fix the Sith Assassin issue. Her turn meter is granted through an ability. It would still shut down Marauder, Zaul, and EP but at least she would would still function.

"Gheyst1214;c-1836477" wrote:If they changed the ability to state “ Sith enemies can’t gain PASSIVE bonus turn meter” this would fix the Sith Assassin issue. Her turn meter is granted through an ability. It would still shut down Marauder, Zaul, and EP but at least she would would still function. This is exactly how they should handle this situation.

Clarification Requested: Sith Assassin

16 Replies

ChiizuLamb
7 years ago
BTW - before anyone comes in and says I'm whining because I want gear on my Sith Assassin back - that's not the case. I have her maxed, yes - but I also run her with a 7* g12+5 Malak - so this is simply a clarification as to how Sith Assassin fits on teams now that she (seemingly inadvertently) no longer has a purpose after this nerf.
ChiizuLamb
7 years ago
Also, ironically, I brought this up with @CG_SBCrumb during celebration stating that this finally gives Sith Assassin some time in the arena meta that she hasn't had since the zeta Maul days and he laughed about it. It's hilarious that this changes literally a day later. lol
MeatknifeE
7 years ago
Heh.. she had her two weeks in the limelight. ?
KreladorNane
7 years ago
That's what I'd like to know.

Are the newly classed as sith empire characters meant to be made pointless already or was this an over-sight (one of a long list of things missed by the dev team).

If this change was intended 100% to stop zPalp being competitive & not around other characters then the implementation was flawed.

If this was because they didn't want any turn meter gain mechanics to work with Malak then it's working as intended.

This is bad for Malak users even, as it means now they can't use Sith As/Maruader to a lesser degree with Malak because in mirror matches they will get stomped due to them not working as previously thoughts.

I'm not sure which is better,

Intentionally gutting two characters they literally just gave the sith empire tag so they can work on the team after we've all just geared them.

Or...

They rushed a change to nerf zPalp & didn't even have the brains to consider the wider impact.
Player_7ctrhms9
7 years ago
"Broxxor;c-1836160" wrote:
Also, ironically, I brought this up with @CG_SBCrumb during celebration stating that this finally gives Sith Assassin some time in the arena meta that she hasn't had since the zeta Maul days and he laughed about it. It's hilarious that this changes literally a day later. lol

I think this post is important for observers of what's happening in the game.
Crazygone1
7 years ago
+1
gheyst1214
New Spectator
7 years ago
If they changed the ability to state “ Sith enemies can’t gain PASSIVE bonus turn meter” this would fix the Sith Assassin issue. Her turn meter is granted through an ability. It would still shut down Marauder, Zaul, and EP but at least she would would still function.
Crazygone1
7 years ago
"Gheyst1214;c-1836477" wrote:
If they changed the ability to state “ Sith enemies can’t gain PASSIVE bonus turn meter” this would fix the Sith Assassin issue. Her turn meter is granted through an ability. It would still shut down Marauder, Zaul, and EP but at least she would would still function.

This is exactly how they should handle this situation.
Roopehuntr
7 years ago
SAss is still a viable option. Not against Malak mirrors, but other teams, like JKR or Malakless DRs.

Similar to HK. HK is perfect against Jkr, but mediocre against others.

Marauder is mediocre against everything.

SiT provides a much needed pre taunt, but then becomes pretty bad. His massive defense/tenacity is quickly nullified by the ferocities.

So thats DR + Badstilla + Malak for sure, plus pick 2 of the above 4.
gheyst1214
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Crazygone510;c-1836484" wrote:
"Gheyst1214;c-1836477" wrote:
If they changed the ability to state “ Sith enemies can’t gain PASSIVE bonus turn meter” this would fix the Sith Assassin issue. Her turn meter is granted through an ability. It would still shut down Marauder, Zaul, and EP but at least she would would still function.

This is exactly how they should handle this situation.

@CG_SBCrumb any chance of revising the ability to work in this manner instead?