6 years ago

Clearly they think matchmaking is working as intended....

With tophats answers in the q&a it sounds pretty obvious that they feel the matchmaking is working as intended with the exception of the comment that they may be looking into players from being in different divisions matched up together. Tophat also mentioned the fact that GAC meant to be for players to use the entirety of their rosters even though it only factors in your top 60-80 toons and zetas and totally fails to factor in the exponential advantage g13 toons add to the base go number (220 gp I think is the difference between a g12/g13 toon). Failure to account for the significant power that one or more g13 toons on a roster provides the effected player is wildly inaccurate when matching with other players with less or no toons at g13. Raising the gp of g12 toons as was eluded to in the q/a does nothing to address problem with difference in overall toon power from a toon at g12 as compared to a g13 toon on the basis of a go number which doesn’t take into account that significant difference. Clearly there is something wrong with a matchmaking system that pairs someone with 2 full squads of meta g13 toons vs someone who maybe has a handful of g13 toons or none at all. Personally I have struggled in this ga, I would say about 60% of my matches have been working as intended (close but could go either way), the rest being grossly overmatched. Back to the point though, obviously the community feels pretty strongly about the legitimacy of the matchmaking for GAC.... not everyone feels this way but I would say there is a strong amount of players who feel that the matchmaking algorithm could be greatly improved upon..... nothing in the q/a made me feel like they think anything is wrong with it and for as many questions that they received on the subject they basically skirted the issue. It would have been nice to have received a bit more clarity on the subject as we move on to the next GAC. Anyway, rant over and prepare for incoming hate :)

pvp

64 Replies

Sir_Phantom_Jed
6 years ago
Agreed, I've been happy with 3 of my matchups out of 13 (won 1 and lost 2, so it doesn't mean i'm 'happy' only if I win).
Jimbo3772
6 years ago
50% of all players will have a match-up disadvantage in any particular round, as nobody has the exact same roster as anyone else. Obviously can never have a system where 100% of the players have favorable match-ups.
sublime828
6 years ago
It’s not just about favorable matchups..... but the fact that a matchmaking system isn’t really taking the actual power of the toons being used in the matchmaking process. A g12+5 Darth Revan with 6* mods has exactly 220gp less than a g13 Darth Revan..... tell me how that’s fair in a matchmaking system. Compound that by multiple g13 characters and it starts to have a large impact on the snapshot of toons they use to matchmake
LiathSW
6 years ago
"Vos_Landeck;c-1929516" wrote:
50% of all players will have a match-up disadvantage in any particular round, as nobody has the exact same roster as anyone else. Obviously can never have a system where 100% of the players have favorable match-ups.

I actually think it's more like 75% of people that believe they have a matchup disadvantage in any particular round, because people focus on the aspects of their opponents' rosters that are stronger while downplaying their own advantages, while their opponents are simultaneously doing the same from the opposite perspective.
SWGoYeti
6 years ago
Welp... They've turned my favourite game mode into a car wreck, and it appears to be working as intended.
TheStifmeister3
Newcomer
6 years ago
Sounds like a personal problem Rando.

Love, your guildmate <3
sublime828
6 years ago
"TheStifmeister2;c-1929553" wrote:
Sounds like a personal problem Rando.

Love, your guildmate <3

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NyKynoe
6 years ago
"Randocalrissian;d-210748" wrote:
With tophats answers in the q&a it sounds pretty obvious that they feel the matchmaking is working as intended with the exception of the comment that they may be looking into players from being in different divisions matched up together. Tophat also mentioned the fact that GAC meant to be for players to use the entirety of the

Really? That's not how I read this response. It seem more like they dont think that and they know they need to keep working on it.

Q: Matchmaking seems to be based on luck and has been fair for some and really unfair for others. What are your plans to make matchmaking more fair/balanced?
A: Tophat - This is a pretty broad question (which is totally fine and great!), but it's hard to give a precise answer. I can provide a philosophical one from us on the dev team. Matchmaking systems require regular and constant iteration. This exhibition round was our first attempt at it. We're currently investigating the changes we need to make for the next round of improvements to the system. We do not believe that this is the last set of changes we will make - we are definitely going to be making some. Hang on with us as we continue to make it better - we're trying to make it really good.
sublime828
6 years ago
@kyno Yet one of the suggestions was to make g12 worth more gp..... how does that solve anything?
Waquira
6 years ago
"Krynn007;c-1929531" wrote:
"Vos_Landeck;c-1929516" wrote:
50% of all players will have a match-up disadvantage in any particular round, as nobody has the exact same roster as anyone else. Obviously can never have a system where 100% of the players have favorable match-ups.

Well when you lose about 99% of the time something is wrong
At least before my win ratio was much better

How did you loose 99% of the time, when the current round is only the 13th of GAC altogether?

My personal win ratio is not much different now than during GA. However, the matches have been far more even than what I saw in GA. Even the matches, that players complain about here on the forums are far more even than what players complained about in GA.