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pickles0138's avatar
7 years ago

Don't even bother, chewy is bugged

FYI, Cewbacca's pulverize doesn't work as described. He doesn't dispell foresight and then misses the pulverize! Given how hard this event is he should be able to actually dispell all buffs and then attack.

Seriously.... Why word it one way and not have it work as advertised?!? CG will say it works as described, buuuuttt I personally disagree.
  • "CG_ParkingInstructor;c-1651980" wrote:
    Hey guys,

    Really interesting discussion going on here regarding Pulverize. I just want to clarify how the ability interacts with Foresight.

    Dispel itself can be evaded unless otherwise specified. So what you guys have seen in the Game Changer footage is correct. Enemies with Foresight will dodge the attack and Foresight will expire. If the attack is not evaded by normal means, enemies will have their buffs removed before the damage calculation.

    Hope this helps!


    If this were actually the case the debuff would trigger foresight and nothing would be debuffed, which would be understandable. But the second part of the special ability shouldn't be dodged. The damage should still land since foresight is gone from evading the debuff.
  • "beer30mn;c-1703308" wrote:
    "CG_ParkingInstructor;c-1651980" wrote:
    Hey guys,

    Really interesting discussion going on here regarding Pulverize. I just want to clarify how the ability interacts with Foresight.

    Dispel itself can be evaded unless otherwise specified. So what you guys have seen in the Game Changer footage is correct. Enemies with Foresight will dodge the attack and Foresight will expire. If the attack is not evaded by normal means, enemies will have their buffs removed before the damage calculation.

    Hope this helps!


    If this were actually the case the debuff would trigger foresight and nothing would be debuffed, which would be understandable. But the second part of the special ability shouldn't be dodged. The damage should still land since foresight is gone from evading the debuff.


    There is no 'debuffing action' going on when the attack is evaded through foresight and so there's no damage dealt because of the evasion too. In other words the attack was ignored completely and that's how foresight works, except an attack can't be evaded.
  • "Kisakee;c-1703436" wrote:
    "beer30mn;c-1703308" wrote:
    "CG_ParkingInstructor;c-1651980" wrote:
    Hey guys,

    Really interesting discussion going on here regarding Pulverize. I just want to clarify how the ability interacts with Foresight.

    Dispel itself can be evaded unless otherwise specified. So what you guys have seen in the Game Changer footage is correct. Enemies with Foresight will dodge the attack and Foresight will expire. If the attack is not evaded by normal means, enemies will have their buffs removed before the damage calculation.

    Hope this helps!


    If this were actually the case the debuff would trigger foresight and nothing would be debuffed, which would be understandable. But the second part of the special ability shouldn't be dodged. The damage should still land since foresight is gone from evading the debuff.


    There is no 'debuffing action' going on when the attack is evaded through foresight and so there's no damage dealt because of the evasion too. In other words the attack was ignored completely and that's how foresight works, except an attack can't be evaded.


    Bu it's not consistent. RT's special can be evaded (damage is not done) yet it still removes all buffs.
  • "Boov;c-1703573" wrote:
    "TVF;c-1703443" wrote:
    "Kisakee;c-1703436" wrote:
    "beer30mn;c-1703308" wrote:
    "CG_ParkingInstructor;c-1651980" wrote:
    Hey guys,

    Really interesting discussion going on here regarding Pulverize. I just want to clarify how the ability interacts with Foresight.

    Dispel itself can be evaded unless otherwise specified. So what you guys have seen in the Game Changer footage is correct. Enemies with Foresight will dodge the attack and Foresight will expire. If the attack is not evaded by normal means, enemies will have their buffs removed before the damage calculation.

    Hope this helps!


    If this were actually the case the debuff would trigger foresight and nothing would be debuffed, which would be understandable. But the second part of the special ability shouldn't be dodged. The damage should still land since foresight is gone from evading the debuff.


    There is no 'debuffing action' going on when the attack is evaded through foresight and so there's no damage dealt because of the evasion too. In other words the attack was ignored completely and that's how foresight works, except an attack can't be evaded.


    Bu it's not consistent. RT's special can be evaded (damage is not done) yet it still removes all buffs.

    I'm reasonably sure that's a bug.


    There's definitely a mismatch between the ability wording and the mechanics. The mechanic lists the dispel as can not be resisted but the ability doesn't say that:


  • There's a difference between un-resistable and "cannot be evaded". All dispel mechanics say "Effect is un-resistable".
  • "Vendi1983;c-1703578" wrote:
    There's a difference between un-resistable and "cannot be evaded". All dispel mechanics say "Effect is un-resistable".


    Cool. Didn't know that!
  • "CG_ParkingInstructor;c-1651980" wrote:
    Hey guys,
    Dispel itself can be evaded unless otherwise specified. So what you guys have seen in the Game Changer footage is correct. Enemies with Foresight will dodge the attack and Foresight will expire. If the attack is not evaded by normal means, enemies will have their buffs removed before the damage calculation.
    Hope this helps!


    This is incorrect for 'dispel' as a whole - eg Chopper, Asajj will dispel through foresight even though their abilities don't specify they can't be evaded - but seems linked to abilities which do damage such as Pulverise.

    As TVF says, there's inconsistency with how these abilities' descriptions match with their actual in-game effects. It's a little frustrating but by no means neuters the characters, Chewie is still badass.
  • That's because of the fact, that AV isn't attacking. If there's no attack it can't be resisted because there's no attack that can be evaded. Only if a character will dispel and deal damage with one skill, it can be evaded by foresight. With not dealing damage it's always a 100% to dispel.