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ChikinNuglet's avatar
ChikinNuglet
Seasoned Newcomer
10 days ago

Thoughts on CG and their approach to the player base that keeps them employed

I had a pretty angry post removed, which is fine, so I'm going to do my best to be as well spoken and respectful as possible, while still airing my grievances.  I think it goes without saying that the recent update has more than upset the player base.  This is supposed to be a FTP game, it is advertised as such, is labeled as such in app stores, etc...FTP = FREE TO PLAY.  The addition of paywalls to previously free to play features is unacceptable, unethical, and in my opinion is completely against the spirit of gaming.  Is this a mobile game, sure, but I would assume that if you are a part of these forums you invest some portion of your time to this game, possibly daily (if you want your free rewards, gear, crystals, etc, you better believe you are logging in daily).  Time is invaluable, we are all allotted just a limited amount.  The fact that we are willing to give our precious time to this game shows how important it is to the player base, as gamers, and as fans of the franchise.  Some are here for the collecting of characters, some for the feel of the game, it doesn't matter, we all donate our time to this game. 

I have no doubt that there are devs on the team who work hard to make sure we have a good experience.  This is evident in the amount of time spent on character models, animations, landscapes, and a variety of other things.  No doubt they are fans as well.  I support those devs.  I have never had a problem throwing a few dollars here or there at this game, because it was enjoyable, and it puts food on the table of the devs.  Unfortunately, most of that money trickles up to the pockets of people who dont value my time.  They dont feel like my time has any value, any worth.  They see me (us) as means to line their pockets with more green.  Just a statistic.  Well statistics work both ways.

Fortnite is a prime example of the right way to do a FTP game.  Give your player base a truly enjoyable game whether or not they are giving you money.  Give them options to buy in, but dont take away from the experience.  Don't alienate people based off of income level.  Don't discriminate based off of whether or not they can boost your revenue by a point or two.  

Whatever, I'm done blabbing.  I'm not making any more purchases in this game.

 

  • The people who keeps them employed are the thrust fund kids who justifies all these paywall by spending thousands of dollars on gacha games on a weekly basis. Some people purchase every single thing that are purchasable on a daily basis to be able to beat other whales and be able to say they are #1 on gacha games.  Contrary to what you may believe, people who spend money every now and then are irrelevant really because their spending is vastly dwarfed by the top players.

  • Rius_975518199's avatar
    Rius_975518199
    Seasoned Vanguard

    Whist I see issues with the new update this is still a FTP viable game. You don’t need a pass to enter any event or game mode. But of course most content will promote spending, if you are FTP I would expect to progress more slowly, but not have previously achieved rewards diluted.

    My main concern is whether FTP pass is equal to GC rewards, which will be seen at the end of this episode. All estimates aside we need to see how it all plays out for players as many changes may impact the outcome. The feats may not be achieved in GC but dailies and other episode quests may contribute enough.

    My second thoughts as someone often getting the conquest pass or pass +. I doubt I will pay for both concurrently. So I am disappointed they did not come up with a season pass which goes across all game modes. Or a deal so those who already spend regularly on conquest pass are not expected to purchase both at full price, as it’s starting to get expensive on the regular.

  • I agree about the two passes.

    I was buying the plus version of the conquest pass, but this time I’m just going with the regular version. I know I’m not their target market, but it’s hard for me to justify spending the money on two plus passes.

    A combined pass for the 28 day period that covered all events and was closer to the original Conquest pass prices would definitely be more attractive. Especially as I buy those passes to try and make the game take a more reasonable amount of effort. 

  • OfTheVeilGaming's avatar
    OfTheVeilGaming
    Seasoned Traveler

    It is factually untrue that previously F2P content is locked behind a Paywall.

    2 Feats a GC + Dailies = the same rewards.

    The two feats that are locked to new content are NOT required to get the rewards. People are incorrectly conflating the inability to complete feats with lost rewards.

    Yes you are not doing every feat. But you are also getting progress on the track from your dailies. Daily quests were made easier to complete and they contribute to your Omicron farm (which they weren't before).

  • mykdapet's avatar
    mykdapet
    Rising Traveler

    There are two aspects though.

    One, rewards. At this point it is flat out disingenuous at best to say nothing ia lost for ftp as we really dont know how it will shake out.

    Two, content access is basically lost when 3 or 4 fears are behind a paywall. If you dont happen to have all tuskens, for example, if you dont pay for the pass or the new character there point in doing the content as you cant get a single reward. If anything they should be looking to make content more accessible, not less.

    Before, having the proper faction was 1 of 4 feats. You could still max 3 feats, now? No faction, no cash, no feats.  Maybe this is a rare gc where it aligns this poorly or maybe not. It is too early to tell.