Don't underestimate Gar Saxon...

"Nebulous;c-1200041" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

Dk? Give me a break.

Remove thrawn?!?? He is one of the best characters in the game.

I'm glad he didn't listen to your suggestions.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1199687" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

It's already a top ten team and I try not to use GK, Rex, Nihilus, or Chaze. They're just so boring and over used.

Have you tried zfost in place of veers?

Just bcuz Thrawn is 1 of the best toons in the game atm, doesn't mean he's best for this comp. Yes DK. I suppose u think Veers adds more 2 the 2 other troopers than DK would do for DT ? What r u new ? Or just a meta fanboi ? The extra crit damage and tm that DK would feed DT far exceeds what Veers can do and his damage and debuffs r superior by far.

GK giving the whole squad retribution and a group cleanse will shut the opponent down far faster than Thrawn under a Gar lead. But hey, what do I know. Only place 1st daily on a launch shard and have NEVER been meta.

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

And then u suggest FOST ? U must b joking. U r in no place to criticize. If u can't add something intelligent to the conversation or see past "O lemme use the most powerful meta toons, they gotta b better", then u really shouldn't b posting at all.

@Nebulous

@BoxandthefuzzForever why did you mod Gar with offense instead of CD/CC? Is it because the resulting CC is too low?

"Poxx;c-1200076" wrote:

"Nebulous;c-1200041" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

Dk? Give me a break.

Remove thrawn?!?? He is one of the best characters in the game.

I'm glad he didn't listen to your suggestions.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1199687" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

It's already a top ten team and I try not to use GK, Rex, Nihilus, or Chaze. They're just so boring and over used.

Have you tried zfost in place of veers?

Just bcuz Thrawn is 1 of the best toons in the game atm, doesn't mean he's best for this comp. Yes DK. I suppose u think Veers adds more 2 the 2 other troopers than DK would do for DT ? What r u new ? Or just a meta fanboi ? The extra crit damage and tm that DK would feed DT far exceeds what Veers can do and his damage and debuffs r superior by far.

GK giving the whole squad retribution and a group cleanse will shut the opponent down far faster than Thrawn under a Gar lead. But hey, what do I know. Only place 1st daily on a launch shard and have NEVER been meta.

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

And then u suggest FOST ? U must b joking. U r in no place to criticize. If u can't add something intelligent to the conversation or see past "O lemme use the most powerful meta toons, they gotta b better", then u really shouldn't b posting at all.

@Nebulous

I don't think DK would necessarily work better than Veers. Both give TM but zVeers also gives protection. If he's using 4 troopers i think Veers isn't a bad choice, it will always synergize well, What would make DK really better is his really powerful basic attack but as long as DT and him aren't targeted you gain no TM at all.

Many teams could get rid of DK instantly with enough time and thus totally bypass DT/DK synergy. But you're right DT damages would be awesome, especially against rebels, as long as one wants to rely only upon this specific toon to succeed.

Both are equally interesting i guess but Veers works better as a fast burst toon (AoE+assist+free turn upon death). DK is really nice but will work better against AI and really stupid players. :pensive:
A wise player will debuff Shoretrooper and focus Saxon at first so this kind of team should deal enough burst cause their own mechanics will quickly fall apart.

Stormtrooper wouldn't be a bad choice if you can stand the lack of auto-taunt, his basic would synergize well with Gar especially if you don't use Veers and thus lack of critical rating. Shoretrooper is the best choice when it comes to soak up damages but he's seriously lacking of punch.
FoST synergize well with Gar but using a Fo toon on an pure Empire team is indeed not much relevant.

"Nebulous;c-1200041" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

Dk? Give me a break.

Remove thrawn?!?? He is one of the best characters in the game.

I'm glad he didn't listen to your suggestions.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1199687" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

It's already a top ten team and I try not to use GK, Rex, Nihilus, or Chaze. They're just so boring and over used.

Have you tried zfost in place of veers?

I have. It's good too. I have a few vids showcasing it.

"Poxx;c-1200076" wrote:

"Nebulous;c-1200041" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

Dk? Give me a break.

Remove thrawn?!?? He is one of the best characters in the game.

I'm glad he didn't listen to your suggestions.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1199687" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

It's already a top ten team and I try not to use GK, Rex, Nihilus, or Chaze. They're just so boring and over used.

Have you tried zfost in place of veers?

Just bcuz Thrawn is 1 of the best toons in the game atm, doesn't mean he's best for this comp. Yes DK. I suppose u think Veers adds more 2 the 2 other troopers than DK would do for DT ? What r u new ? Or just a meta fanboi ? The extra crit damage and tm that DK would feed DT far exceeds what Veers can do and his damage and debuffs r superior by far.

GK giving the whole squad retribution and a group cleanse will shut the opponent down far faster than Thrawn under a Gar lead. But hey, what do I know. Only place 1st daily on a launch shard and have NEVER been meta.

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

And then u suggest FOST ? U must b joking. U r in no place to criticize. If u can't add something intelligent to the conversation or see past "O lemme use the most powerful meta toons, they gotta b better", then u really shouldn't b posting at all.

@Nebulous

There are many paths to enlightenment, brother. Veers and Thrawn can be a very effective combo. I also recently pulled DN and GK from my lineup because I’m just sick of seeing them everywhere.

https://youtu.be/zy_CH2BWlrg

"BrtStlnd;c-1200352" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1200076" wrote:

"Nebulous;c-1200041" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

Dk? Give me a break.

Remove thrawn?!?? He is one of the best characters in the game.

I'm glad he didn't listen to your suggestions.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1199687" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

It's already a top ten team and I try not to use GK, Rex, Nihilus, or Chaze. They're just so boring and over used.

Have you tried zfost in place of veers?

Just bcuz Thrawn is 1 of the best toons in the game atm, doesn't mean he's best for this comp. Yes DK. I suppose u think Veers adds more 2 the 2 other troopers than DK would do for DT ? What r u new ? Or just a meta fanboi ? The extra crit damage and tm that DK would feed DT far exceeds what Veers can do and his damage and debuffs r superior by far.

GK giving the whole squad retribution and a group cleanse will shut the opponent down far faster than Thrawn under a Gar lead. But hey, what do I know. Only place 1st daily on a launch shard and have NEVER been meta.

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

And then u suggest FOST ? U must b joking. U r in no place to criticize. If u can't add something intelligent to the conversation or see past "O lemme use the most powerful meta toons, they gotta b better", then u really shouldn't b posting at all.

@Nebulous

There are many paths to enlightenment, brother. Veers and Thrawn can be a very effective combo. I also recently pulled DN and GK from my lineup because I’m just sick of seeing them everywhere.

https://youtu.be/zy_CH2BWlrg

That's the go to comp I've been running lately. It's great. Possibly one of the best pure faction teams around right now.

Is that stormtrooper or FOST? I can't see clearly since he's on the bottom corner

"WompWompRat;c-1200447" wrote:
Is that stormtrooper or FOST? I can't see clearly since he's on the bottom corner

Stormtrooper.

"BrtStlnd;c-1200468" wrote:

"WompWompRat;c-1200447" wrote:
Is that stormtrooper or FOST? I can't see clearly since he's on the bottom corner

Stormtrooper.

Cool, wasn't sure if he was trying the ZFOST idea. I'm also a fan of Saxon. I like using him but still need omegas to max out his potential. He's definitely fun to use though

"Poxx;c-1200076" wrote:

"Nebulous;c-1200041" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

Dk? Give me a break.

Remove thrawn?!?? He is one of the best characters in the game.

I'm glad he didn't listen to your suggestions.

"BoxandthefuzzForever;c-1199687" wrote:

"Poxx;c-1199475" wrote:
Swap Veers and Thrawn for DK and GK (cleanse, back-up crit immunity, squad retaliation) and u have a top 10 team.

It's already a top ten team and I try not to use GK, Rex, Nihilus, or Chaze. They're just so boring and over used.

Have you tried zfost in place of veers?

Just bcuz Thrawn is 1 of the best toons in the game atm, doesn't mean he's best for this comp. Yes DK. I suppose u think Veers adds more 2 the 2 other troopers than DK would do for DT ? What r u new ? Or just a meta fanboi ? The extra crit damage and tm that DK would feed DT far exceeds what Veers can do and his damage and debuffs r superior by far.

GK giving the whole squad retribution and a group cleanse will shut the opponent down far faster than Thrawn under a Gar lead. But hey, what do I know. Only place 1st daily on a launch shard and have NEVER been meta.

https://swgoh.gg/u/poxx70/

And then u suggest FOST ? U must b joking. U r in no place to criticize. If u can't add something intelligent to the conversation or see past "O lemme use the most powerful meta toons, they gotta b better", then u really shouldn't b posting at all.

@Nebulous

Hello. Quite an impressive rant. Since we are flaunting swgoh stats: https://swgoh.gg/u/jadehubris/

Here is why those suggestions were not an upgrade.

Veers is the only real flex spot. This means that was the dk swap. So then gk is subbing out for thrawn?

Veers brings an aoe silence, assist for his troopers and his basic brings speed up to troopers. This means that shore will almost always have extra buffs. So when his buffs drop/dispelled, he is ready to taunt again. This is incredible. Dk is squishy (even with dt zeta). This is the only flex spot. He is powerful, but is an offense team toon. He is not for defending. This is probably a sidegrade/downgrade to veers.

Gk is a really good toon but his ret is only a 50% upgrade over gar's lead and isn't guaranteed
To land. His taunt has negative synergy with shore since they both bring crit immunity and he needs that for a taunt. Gk can't heal but thrawn brings fracture and protection heal and a much more damaging basic and 100% counter when he fracs someone. Gk is not an upgrade over thrawn.

Have you played with zfost? He counters and his counters can call in an assist. Gar will trigger in both of these. So there can be 4 attacks from 1 counter. Fost counter, his assist call and then 2 from gar. Fost has a 2 turn taunt and 3 turn cd. His taunt give teamwide tm gain. His basic adds a slow. Which in case you didn't know, has positive synergy. So yes. Zfost is amazing. I'd suggest using him and yea, he isn't meta!

So I do know what I'm talking about.

Veers is the flex spot. That is it. I am curious if he consider fost.