This is really not fun and it has to be the most overpowered meta to date. Palp, Vader, sion, nihilus, thrawn.If the person running this meta has all 90+ total speed from mods and over 110 on Vader. The person is literally a demigod. Vader's force crush for 2 turn speed reduction debuff on all targets is extremely overpowered. Needs to be tuned down to 1 turn or only affect the main target. Vader is also guaranteed first to hit in a battle if you focus all speed mods on him. Palpatine needs his leader ability tuned down and most important his power of the dark side attack. Most overpowered attack in the game if you land that 70% chance to stun on 3 or more targets. I have seen all 5 of my characters stunned before with a max gear level and over 220-240 speed.Sion / nihilus combo is also extremely overpowered and needs a tune for sion's held by hatred. Once he gets it... it's over. Might as well forfeit the match. And his lord of pain passive should drop by 100% defense/tenacity to 30%. I hope my feedback/rant is heard and im sure many others here feel the same way.

I believe CLS broke into the 70-80% range on swgoh.ggPalp is hovering around 40%. So not the most overpowering by a long shot.I even think rex triple cleans broke 50%.

I don't think EP needs to be nerfed. However, my personal experience on my shard is that EP seems more ubiquitous than any previous meta, probably because he's a character that everyone already has geared up. I would like to see a hard counter added though, because it is kind of frustrating to have the arena dominated by a single team again.

If your team is faster, you can probably win. I still run CLS and haven't dropped out of top 20 in weeks.

I run Thrawntroopers and I actively seek out nightmare. Force Crush feeds my team turn meter. Then it becomes a race to murder Sheev before he AoE stuns, and to kickstart the trooper roll.While I agree, multistun is among the most obnoxious mechanics a game can have, nightmare is simply common. Not the best or most overpowered. Especially not the most overpowered ever.

"CCyrilS;c-1558032" wrote:"TVF;c-1558028" wrote:It's not random unless two toons reach 100% TM before it's their turn to go. Otherwise there's always a reason one goes before the other.This. Just need to understand your team AND your opponent's. Ppl need to research before asking why?Cool story

Emperor palpatine meta needs a nerf

NyKynoe
7 years ago
I believe CLS broke into the 70-80% range on swgoh.gg

Palp is hovering around 40%.

So not the most overpowering by a long shot.

I even think rex triple cleans broke 50%.
no-good-ea
7 years ago
I don't think EP needs to be nerfed. However, my personal experience on my shard is that EP seems more ubiquitous than any previous meta, probably because he's a character that everyone already has geared up. I would like to see a hard counter added though, because it is kind of frustrating to have the arena dominated by a single team again.
ExarTheKun
7 years ago
If your team is faster, you can probably win. I still run CLS and haven't dropped out of top 20 in weeks.
BlueRoseBlade
7 years ago
I run Thrawntroopers and I actively seek out nightmare. Force Crush feeds my team turn meter. Then it becomes a race to murder Sheev before he AoE stuns, and to kickstart the trooper roll.

While I agree, multistun is among the most obnoxious mechanics a game can have, nightmare is simply common. Not the best or most overpowered. Especially not the most overpowered ever.
t0neg0d
7 years ago
"CCyrilS;c-1558032" wrote:
"TVF;c-1558028" wrote:
It's not random unless two toons reach 100% TM before it's their turn to go. Otherwise there's always a reason one goes before the other.

This. Just need to understand your team AND your opponent's. Ppl need to research before asking why?

Cool story
tvsfrink
7 years ago
These nerf requests need nerfs.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
"Iceih_SWG;c-1568498" wrote:
"Matthew_01;c-1568407" wrote:
Listen. There will always be a meta that beats most other teams. Currently it's EP, but there are loads of teams that can beat him, such as thrawn lead, Rex, now JTR with Enfys Nest... many can do it. Yes, Sion can be a pain, but if you carefully control the battle, it is doable. Don't worry, soon enough a new meta will arrive (after Traya destroys the arena) and we can all complain about that one instead.

EP can area stun a full team and disable the player from playing, even when the meta is over, these teams will remain in GW and TW. This is different to other metas that can be defeated in several attempts with this meta most teams do not even scratch their protection.

If this was true the EP meta would be 80-90% not 50%. And I submit the only reason it's so high to begin with is because it's much easier to build.

I don't think I've ever been stunned 5/5 against EP. 4/5 every once in a while. And I still win 90% of the time. I think I'm doing more than scratching protection.
BlueRoseBlade
7 years ago
Blue decks are frustrating to play against.

This is old news.

However, at that point, the challenge becomes controlling or killing Palpatine before he can stun. Stun, ability block, and fracture are all useful tools toward that end.
tvsfrink
7 years ago
Ability block Vader. Problem solved.
ArchlordCalasta
7 years ago
What is that for? Is there supposed to be a meaning to all the quotes?