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Player_3k700krq
8 years ago

Emperor Palpatine Zeta rework!

https://moseisleychronicles.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/emperor.jpg

So his Basic and two Special abilities remain the same, but with added Zeta to his Lead and a second Unique:

Emperor of the Galactic Empire (LEADER)

https://swgoh.gg/static/img/assets/tex.abilityui_passive_empire.png

Empire and Sith allies gain +32% Potency and Max Health. Jedi and Rebel enemies have -32% Potency and Evasion. Whenever an Empire ally inflicts a debuff during their turn they gain 20% Turn Meter. Whenever a Sith ally inflicts a debuff during their turn they recover 20% of their Max Health.

Level 8
(Zeta x40; Omega x25; Mk III x40)

While Emperor Palpatine is active, if Darth Vader is present he applies his Leader ability.

Rule of Two (UNIQUE)

https://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49017/1572428-sith_symbol.jpg

Palpatine has a 15% chance to ignore enemy Protection, Tenacity and Evasion for each enemy with a positive status effect. If Darth Vader is present he also gains this bonus. In addition, whenever Palpatine uses a Special ability, Darth Vader is called to Assist dealing 66% more damage.
  • Player_3k700krq's avatar
    Player_3k700krq
    8 years ago
    "An00byNubeNewb;c-1323116" wrote:
    "dimi4a;c-1311681" wrote:
    "Zombie961;c-1311672" wrote:
    "dimi4a;c-1311665" wrote:
    And yet here we have a LS team that can give HoT's for each debuff, practically unlimited taunting, a reverse cleanse, a dispeller that can reduce CD and a leader that gives 10% Max Health and 7.5% TM for each Crit suffered, please consider that! We already have what you call "a death sentence for an AoE user" against CLS lead!

    That's a whole team using all their kits together as intended. not a base of large stat boosts, undispellable DoTs, ability blocks and protection regen on a crit, and counter chance. On top of all their kits. Rex can be countered by turn meter removers, stuns, and with Ken giving crit immunity the team shoots itself in the foot (provided you can dispel and buff block Kenobi) and is staring to lose ground to Luke, and a Luke counter team is only deadly if they have Han as well, and even that's countered with R2's stealth or stunning the big hitters. With this lead (combing with Tarkin, Krennic, Zader, and Saxon) you're giving a team a +30 speed, a 50% chance to remove 25% meter on any attack, plus +20 meter each time they land a debuff, which they can do with a crit, on top of 10% protection on a crit, 5% health on a basic, and a 100% counter chance. They'd be unstoppable


    "They'd be unstoppable"... well same as LS teams are now in top 10 arena. No, they'll be the perfect DS counter to CLS and company! Using mirror LS teams for counter is **** and kills the variety!


    Buddy. The LS teams and CLS teams are beatable and get beaten but certain teams all the time. What you're proposing would literally be UNBEATABLE. There isn't a swingle team or toon that could even remotely keep up with having 5 leader skills all at once. I like the idea on the unique tho!


    Yeah... beatable from mirror LS teams only! Certainly not from DS teams! Just look here: https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/ CLS alone has abilities and bonuses for an entire squad, which of course is OK by many, but let's say EP should get a boost that is true to canon, then it's the end of the world! What i suggest is an effective counter to CLS and company!

  • White_Boy-2101's avatar
    White_Boy-2101
    8 years ago
    This sounds like one of the coolest upgrades to any character. I wouldn’t mind this being added.
  • Player_3k700krq's avatar
    Player_3k700krq
    8 years ago
    "LGuy_21;c-1334404" wrote:
    This sounds like one of the coolest upgrades to any character. I wouldn’t mind this being added.


    After all he was one of the most powerful Sith Lords in the history of the galaxy who masterminded the destruction of the Jedi Order and who dismantled the Old Republic from within! It is only fitting that he should get these upgrades, which are canon true!
  • ExarTheKun's avatar
    ExarTheKun
    8 years ago
    -1 **unimaginative**

    "dimi4a;d-139177" wrote:

    While Emperor Palpatine is active, each Empire ally applies their Leader ability (If any).


    How about a leader ability that leaves room for other DS leaders to be used in the future? This locks in Palp, forever. It's literally one of the worst proposals I've seen on this forum, and there are some baddies.
  • jarhead733's avatar
    jarhead733
    8 years ago
    "dimi4a;c-1323150" wrote:
    Yeah... beatable from mirror LS teams only! Certainly not from DS teams! Just look here: https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/ CLS alone has abilities and bonuses for an entire squad, which of course is OK by many, but let's say EP should get a boost that is true to canon, then it's the end of the world! What i suggest is an effective counter to CLS and company!

    I use Resistance and beat them regularly. And going through my arena leaderboard (December 2015) I still have a few Rex and GK leads, on top of a Wedge, 2 Ackbars, a Qui Gon, and even an old Ben
  • DoktorH90's avatar
    DoktorH90
    8 years ago
    Palp needs zetas, and I'm guessing he'll get em before too long, but what you're suggesting would only make the meta worse. Sure, maybe all the CLS is bad now, but the meta would be 100% Palp with these upgrades. And I use Empire in Arena, so I feel your CLS pain lol
  • A_n00byNubeNewb's avatar
    A_n00byNubeNewb
    8 years ago
    "dimi4a;c-1323150" wrote:
    "An00byNubeNewb;c-1323116" wrote:
    "dimi4a;c-1311681" wrote:
    "Zombie961;c-1311672" wrote:
    "dimi4a;c-1311665" wrote:
    And yet here we have a LS team that can give HoT's for each debuff, practically unlimited taunting, a reverse cleanse, a dispeller that can reduce CD and a leader that gives 10% Max Health and 7.5% TM for each Crit suffered, please consider that! We already have what you call "a death sentence for an AoE user" against CLS lead!

    That's a whole team using all their kits together as intended. not a base of large stat boosts, undispellable DoTs, ability blocks and protection regen on a crit, and counter chance. On top of all their kits. Rex can be countered by turn meter removers, stuns, and with Ken giving crit immunity the team shoots itself in the foot (provided you can dispel and buff block Kenobi) and is staring to lose ground to Luke, and a Luke counter team is only deadly if they have Han as well, and even that's countered with R2's stealth or stunning the big hitters. With this lead (combing with Tarkin, Krennic, Zader, and Saxon) you're giving a team a +30 speed, a 50% chance to remove 25% meter on any attack, plus +20 meter each time they land a debuff, which they can do with a crit, on top of 10% protection on a crit, 5% health on a basic, and a 100% counter chance. They'd be unstoppable


    "They'd be unstoppable"... well same as LS teams are now in top 10 arena. No, they'll be the perfect DS counter to CLS and company! Using mirror LS teams for counter is **** and kills the variety!


    Buddy. The LS teams and CLS teams are beatable and get beaten but certain teams all the time. What you're proposing would literally be UNBEATABLE. There isn't a swingle team or toon that could even remotely keep up with having 5 leader skills all at once. I like the idea on the unique tho!


    Yeah... beatable from mirror LS teams only! Certainly not from DS teams! Just look here: https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/ CLS alone has abilities and bonuses for an entire squad, which of course is OK by many, but let's say EP should get a boost that is true to canon, then it's the end of the world! What i suggest is an effective counter to CLS and company!



    That would literally be a counter to everything! Having a character like that would destroy the meta and turn that that "oh 86% of people use CLS leads" or whatever to literally ever bloody person uses palpatine because there just would be no competition otherwise. And you can talk about canon and his abilities and what he should be able to do and blah blah blah but that doesn't mean that they should make him a game breaking character. It would just make the game no fun at all. He does deserve some zetas tho. Hopefully he'll get them soon :) and CLS teams do get beaten by non mirror teams. It happens all the time. Quit using bias and actually think about how characters interact with AI and each other and realize that CLS is just one of the only toons that offer solid defence and offence.
  • Player_3k700krq's avatar
    Player_3k700krq
    8 years ago
    Feel free to post your ideas then, but you have to take into consideration that his Zetas should be something unique and an effective counter to Jedi and Rebels!
  • t0neg0d's avatar
    t0neg0d
    7 years ago
    Old post... but Palpatine does need zetas (yes 2... he is obviously already setup for these). There should be zader synergies... I think appling zader lead is a decent idea... I don't think applying every1s lead is, but that's just me. There should also be RG synergies (and an RG rework to help the Palpatine zeta effort).

    I just hope they do something... I'm a ds user (or at least want to be) but I had to give up on them as they are all but useless now.

    I'd LOVE to be able to use my shore, dt, krennic, Vader, tfp, etc, etc and the list of useless goes on & on.

    Give us some Palpatine lovin' CG!
  • Player_3k700krq's avatar
    Player_3k700krq
    7 years ago
    "ImaginaryAlex;c-1389053" wrote:
    "Zombie961;c-1335097" wrote:
    "dimi4a;c-1323150" wrote:
    Yeah... beatable from mirror LS teams only! Certainly not from DS teams! Just look here: https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/ CLS alone has abilities and bonuses for an entire squad, which of course is OK by many, but let's say EP should get a boost that is true to canon, then it's the end of the world! What i suggest is an effective counter to CLS and company!

    I use Resistance and beat them regularly. And going through my arena leaderboard (December 2015) I still have a few Rex and GK leads, on top of a Wedge, 2 Ackbars, a Qui Gon, and even an old Ben


    That's what he means by mirror LS, his point is solely on DS, so your point is invalid


    It was hard explaining that to them!

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