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Wildcats1203's avatar
9 years ago

Empire Abilities are Underpowered

So I was looking at creating an Empire team. The first thing I noticed was that Vader's leadership ability at level 6 gives +27.5 offense to Empire allies AND gives all attacking Empire allies a 25% chance to remove 10% turn meter. That's a good ability for an Empire team. But Veers' ability at level 7 (that is, a higher level than the ability I just described) gives 26% offense to Empire allies. At a higher ability level, it gives less offense than Vader's ability and doesn't have a chance to manipulate turn meter. What's the point of Veers even having a leadership ability when it is outclassed in every way by Vader's?
Snowtrooper also has an ability that doesn't seem balanced. He has an AoE that grants himself offense up on a killing blow. Sound familiar? It's the same as Anakin's. The only difference is that Anakin's ability grants offense up to the whole team instead of just himself AND does more damage. I'm not calling for a nerf to Anakin, but Snowtrooper, or any character, should not have an ability that is just a weaker version of another character's ability. From a balance standpoint, it just doesn't make sense. I will not be farming that Empire squad.
  • "Wildcats1203;284927" wrote:
    "DarthMegaBex;284919" wrote:
    "Wildcats1203;284909" wrote:
    "DarthMegaBex;284735" wrote:
    Greedo and Boba, Ahsoka and Old Ben, these 2 are good examples of imbalanced leader abilities but you have to take into account their use. Few people are inclined to use Greedo especially as leader and Nightsisters use Ventress as leader


    Greedo and Boba boost critical chance and critical damage, so they don't do the same thing. And Ahsoka boosts Jedi and Nightsisters, while Ben only boosts Jedi. Vader and Veers both boost literally the exact same thing for the same people, and Vader is just flat-out better. Hopefully Veers gets a more unique ability in the update.


    Got me on Boba and Greedo, but Ben is all Allies not just Jedi


    I guess we're even then! And now that you mention it, you're right. There is absolutely no reason to ever use an Ahsoka leader, because Old Ben is just better. There's no balance at all.


    I love when people argue like this... all arguing post should be polite, fun to read and educative as these ones :)
  • "Smapty;285038" wrote:
    Empire team is stronger than people think...

    I have been running a Tarkin (L), magma, RG, Vader and Tusken shaman group lately on my server and it can compete with any of the teams in the current meta (took #1 at patio today). Toughest opponent is Lumi hiding behind RG. If you can't burst her down with Vader before RG taunts and she gets her heal off then you are most likely doomed.

    You basically function by grinding down the other team with dots, debuffs and stuns and outlast them with the high overall hp's. I like the Tusken shaman a lot with the empire team... his heal is no joke when the other team has negative effects and the offense up boost when he heals is a nice bonus.

    It's not a ftp team (at least not yet) but it does work well and I really enjoy playing it. I'm looking forward to the next update and seeing how it does with the combat changes.


    You've just done what I foresee will be a great squad in the future. I just miss the shaman but wonder how much cash investment it represents to get him to 7stars? If you can help with this question it is welcomed.

    Basically, Vador with his high potency keeps dots on everyone and shaman can use his heal to full efficiency. I read that his heal heals based on each team members HP with it's even better because Empire toons all have high life pool (except Tarkin). That might be corrected in the future to be in line with the skill description though.

    I also read the cool down of the heal is every other turn, is that true?

    Cheers