Executor is a beast? [MERGE]

If anyone is mad about Home One having an issue post-Executor buff you shouldn't be. This update didn't do anything to stop that counter.

"HokieFiend;c-2291013" wrote:
If anyone is mad about Home One having an issue post-Executor buff you shouldn't be. This update didn't do anything to stop that counter.

"Crew Ability "Vader's Bounty" will stipulate at max rank (level 8) that Tank allies will take 50% reduced damage from out-of-turn attacks."

"Fylik;c-2291017" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2291013" wrote:
If anyone is mad about Home One having an issue post-Executor buff you shouldn't be. This update didn't do anything to stop that counter.

"Crew Ability "Vader's Bounty" will stipulate at max rank (level 8) that Tank allies will take 50% reduced damage from out-of-turn attacks."

It still doesn't hinder the counter. Easy wins. If they wanted to hinder that counter or flat out stop it they'd probably need to put in a daze mechanic or something far more drastic than that ability.

@Kyno
Can I add, so there'sa dose of realism in the forum... whatever has been said above... it really isn't being easily beaten... I can say that first hand trying over & over... and streaming thru Discord with guildmates.

"HokieFiend;c-2291026" wrote:

"Fylik;c-2291017" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2291013" wrote:
If anyone is mad about Home One having an issue post-Executor buff you shouldn't be. This update didn't do anything to stop that counter.

"Crew Ability "Vader's Bounty" will stipulate at max rank (level 8) that Tank allies will take 50% reduced damage from out-of-turn attacks."

It still doesn't hinder the counter. Easy wins. If they wanted to hinder that counter or flat out stop it they'd probably need to put in a daze mechanic or something far more drastic than that ability.

If you could share those easy wins with a video or something (showing the gear level of your pilots), it could help a lot players who still have trouble taming the beast.

"Shadow1989;c-2291077" wrote:

"Server21;c-2290957" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2290909" wrote:

"Server21;c-2290830" wrote:
Still getting beat by Negotiators. Even at 7 stars, pretty straightforward

Lineup?
Stars?
Relic levels?
On both sides
Server21

I was beaten by Nego - ETA/ HT/ Ahsoka starting.
Kyno

My executor is 7 stars, r7 HT; r5 RC; r5 XB
All 6 dot mods on my pilots and theirs

Cg sells this ship as unbeatable. It should live up to its name due to the high resources required for executor.

Otherwise, refund our resources so we can use it for LV

Can you share a quote or timestamp where they said unbeatable?

Closest we heard was good luck to beating it with other teams. Which does seem to be the case now. Not impossible, but not guaranteed.

"Kyno;c-2291097" wrote:

"Shadow1989;c-2291077" wrote:

"Server21;c-2290957" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2290909" wrote:

"Server21;c-2290830" wrote:
Still getting beat by Negotiators. Even at 7 stars, pretty straightforward

Lineup?
Stars?
Relic levels?
On both sides
Server21

I was beaten by Nego - ETA/ HT/ Ahsoka starting.
Kyno

My executor is 7 stars, r7 HT; r5 RC; r5 XB
All 6 dot mods on my pilots and theirs

Cg sells this ship as unbeatable. It should live up to its name due to the high resources required for executor.

Otherwise, refund our resources so we can use it for LV

Can you share a quote or timestamp where they said unbeatable?

Closest we heard was good luck to beating it with other teams. Which does seem to be the case now. Not impossible, but not guaranteed.

Ah, back to the semantics game I see. Glad to see you back to form.

"Starslayer;c-2291085" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2291026" wrote:

"Fylik;c-2291017" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2291013" wrote:
If anyone is mad about Home One having an issue post-Executor buff you shouldn't be. This update didn't do anything to stop that counter.

"Crew Ability "Vader's Bounty" will stipulate at max rank (level 8) that Tank allies will take 50% reduced damage from out-of-turn attacks."

It still doesn't hinder the counter. Easy wins. If they wanted to hinder that counter or flat out stop it they'd probably need to put in a daze mechanic or something far more drastic than that ability.

If you could share those easy wins with a video or something (showing the gear level of your pilots), it could help a lot players who still have trouble taming the beast.

I would also like @HokieFiend to see these mythical 'Easy wins' .... I've heard a lot of voices saying how easy it is...

I've heard a lot of people saying how easy it was to beat Executor and now, post buff, how easy it is to still beat.

However, I've not seen a single person show me over & over again the success of a particular counter.

What I have witnessed, & what I have done, along with guild members and others... we've tested these legendary counters versus, and there is a small fraction of a percentage of a success rate.... and every single one of these counters are subject to rng... it can win one battle, then lose 20.
It'd be nice for these learned players of the game to share these apparent counters.... or fess up that really they're just annoyed that their new shiny Executor was bumped out of the Top Ten.

I've heard a lot of 'well I've spoken to 'X' who said it is easily beatable'.... I see limited evidence of this... and even less demonstrable facts.

What I suggest, when the next person says its easily beatable, is that they put their money where their mouth is.... spend crystals trying counters out, record them and share.
I think after a few hrs of pulling your hair out, you may end up changing your view of the matter.
If not, share....

"StarSon;c-2291104" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2291097" wrote:

"Shadow1989;c-2291077" wrote:

"Server21;c-2290957" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2290909" wrote:

"Server21;c-2290830" wrote:
Still getting beat by Negotiators. Even at 7 stars, pretty straightforward

Lineup?
Stars?
Relic levels?
On both sides
Server21

I was beaten by Nego - ETA/ HT/ Ahsoka starting.
Kyno

My executor is 7 stars, r7 HT; r5 RC; r5 XB
All 6 dot mods on my pilots and theirs

Cg sells this ship as unbeatable. It should live up to its name due to the high resources required for executor.

Otherwise, refund our resources so we can use it for LV

Can you share a quote or timestamp where they said unbeatable?

Closest we heard was good luck to beating it with other teams. Which does seem to be the case now. Not impossible, but not guaranteed.

Ah, back to the semantics game I see. Glad to see you back to form.

He's not wrong though

Never saw CG said LV will be unbeatable, so why assume it is?

"Gavsta;c-2291107" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2291085" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2291026" wrote:

"Fylik;c-2291017" wrote:

"HokieFiend;c-2291013" wrote:
If anyone is mad about Home One having an issue post-Executor buff you shouldn't be. This update didn't do anything to stop that counter.

"Crew Ability "Vader's Bounty" will stipulate at max rank (level 8) that Tank allies will take 50% reduced damage from out-of-turn attacks."

It still doesn't hinder the counter. Easy wins. If they wanted to hinder that counter or flat out stop it they'd probably need to put in a daze mechanic or something far more drastic than that ability.

If you could share those easy wins with a video or something (showing the gear level of your pilots), it could help a lot players who still have trouble taming the beast.

I would also like @HokieFiend to see these mythical 'Easy wins' .... I've heard a lot of voices saying how easy it is...

I've heard a lot of people saying how easy it was to beat Executor and now, post buff, how easy it is to still beat.

However, I've not seen a single person show me over & over again the success of a particular counter.

What I have witnessed, & what I have done, along with guild members and others... we've tested these legendary counters versus, and there is a small fraction of a percentage of a success rate.... and every single one of these counters are subject to rng... it can win one battle, then lose 20.
It'd be nice for these learned players of the game to share these apparent counters.... or fess up that really they're just annoyed that their new shiny Executor was bumped out of the Top Ten.

I've heard a lot of 'well I've spoken to 'X' who said it is easily beatable'.... I see limited evidence of this... and even less demonstrable facts.

What I suggest, when the next person says its easily beatable, is that they put their money where their mouth is.... spend crystals trying counters out, record them and share.
I think after a few hrs of pulling your hair out, you may end up changing your view of the matter.
If not, share....

THIS 100%. I am in a fleet arena since 3 weeks after game launch. Plenty of whales and long term players in the top 20. I have a 7* Executor, all 6* mods and all pilots Relic 7 (except Boba and Piet who are r8) and i have not dropped out of the top 5 since. I have to change my fleet for other shard mates to get 1 and that includes the 2 FULL Relic 7 Rebel fleets. Before the update, they recorded a win rate of about 40% and did manage to bump me from 1 but post update, they are now asking me to change fleets. I put in bomber before the update which caused them all sorts of issues as burning prevents assists but now I go full BH starting line up with HT, RC and IG2000. I would love to see someone show 5 consecutive battles with these magical counters and go at least 3/5. That would be a reasonable counter and I doubt we would see 2/5 let alone 5/5 like these posters state. Good Luck.