Executor is a beast? [MERGE]

"HumbleMumble;c-2289443" wrote:
I’ve got a stupid question, is there a way to see when the event is active without qualify for the event? I’d rather not bloat my characters until the event is back next time. But I don’t want to risk missing it either.

The monthly calendar should inform us when the next time the event will be active without waiting for it to go live in the game

"Server21;c-2289331" wrote:


I already have that - my IG2000 is 1 speed faster than Executor, I’ve been moved back by two 5 star Executor’s already today.

That mechanic means nothing

Yeah thats a seperate problem... has nothing to do with the special move not doing swarm due to lack of breach, thus making you do a basic on turn 1.

That typically has to do with the opponent's entire bh team being faster then piett due to it being 5 star and them getting a much better start than you do.

But you not getting swarm on turn 1 is due to lack of getting breach off on turn 1 either due to you ig88 not being dast enough or simply not being high enough level to get potency up high enough to land it.

Now if you are saying you have ig88 at r8 and you still arent landing breach.... thats a problem. Perhaps, potency boost to ig2000 is needed or to all bh in general along with the speed boost they need

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2289139" wrote:
Disclaimer, there are no Executor in my shard. Our first TW opponent set none on defense.

The speed issue with 7* seems like an obvious oversight that I hope is addressed. Depending on how long they take, I also hope they compensate those that rushed for 7* just to have a worse ship than those with 5/6*.

Regarding non-mirror counters. My current exposure is only 1 GAC opponent. I was dumb enough to put rebels on D, so I can't speak to that counter. But Mal is by no means a cakewalk. I was streaming with guild mates, and they streamed some arena Mal vs Ex for me. They lost. I lost. I killed one ship. Brought in Rsddus, killed one more. Brought in Finalizer, got lucky that Breached ship was killed first, so I could dispel HT and clean up.

Taking my admittedly limited exposure, I'd say the ship is just fine vs Mal, Raddus, and Finalizer.

As for the reports about rebels being the better counter, does it not require well geared/relic'd Bistan and SRP? Not to mention Han, Chewie, and Biggs? I'll reserve judgment on that, but if relic'd rebels can soft counter Ex, I'd say that's fair. Feel free to disagree. I just don't think it's healthy to have a new meta without any soft counters.

If my initial observations turn out to be wrong, I'll gladly recant. But so far, to me, it seems like there's a lot of overreacting going on (save the 7* speed issue, which is outrageous).

I'm replying to myself. Based on what I've seen in 2 TWs (have to look at how our own have held since opponents didn't place more than 1) and discord chat for GAC and arena, those complaining that the ship doesn't do well enough on defense are daft. Still agree that the 7* speed issue is outrageous.

"Lrrr;c-2287783" wrote:

"Gavsta;c-2287755" wrote:
A little calm to the craziness...
1. Executor right now can crush everything on offence, to the point it can almost be auto'd.

Not a 7* maxed BH Executor vs a 4* less geared mirror. That’s a problem. If it’s wai, they should refund folks to purchased it. They’ve said there should be no ‘paper zombie’ stuff, and right now 7* maxed squad versus a lesser team is rough. It was over sold. It has under delivered. It’s still a good ship, but the 7* v 4* thing has to be fixed, regardless if they leave counters.

I agree ..... the 'counters' that can beat it should be left well alone...
But the 4* Exec being better than a 7* Exec needs updating.... if 'no more paper zombie' rules are applied.

"Lor_San_Teka;c-2287785" wrote:

"Gavsta;c-2287755" wrote:
3. I've tried all these 'counters' that have been shown by some of our 'learned' creators and they really aren't that easy or straightforward.

Mid Relic Rebels cut through it like butter. Mine are R4 and it's pretty quick. Your Rebel crews are not relic. Ackbar still purple. Not roster shaming, it's just a fact. An R8 crew shouldn't fall to 3rd gen meta fleets several relic levels back.

I accept that, but politely disagree with your view.
After weeks of Executor being out there... it really is not being 'easily beaten' as everyone is saying.
I'm perfectly happy with the release of a powerhouse fleet that.... after lots of testing.... is not 'easily beaten'.
Getting r4 rebels is an investment of time & resources... if it is the achilles heel of the new fleet, then why not?
If the argument is 'I spent lots of money and my fleet can be beaten' then don't spend the money on potential on day one, wait to see what comes, and make a choice.
If the argument is 'I was sold the idea of an unbeatable team' then that was never stipulated, I never saw a statement saying 'no other fleet will beat this'... there were hints of its strength, but no more.
If the argument is 'Its like a ship GL, that based on the investment shouldn't be beaten by any other fleets like the way GLs can't be beaten (or won't be after the incoming nerfs)'... then this is the only fleet, not like we have a choice of another meta fleet, so everyone will sprint to get it, and then it'll be a fleet arena of Executorvs Executor... do we really want a return to the days of JKR vs JKR in arena.... or a paper/rock/scissors style game?

I've had time to consider the true strength on offence and defence... and apart from the 4* Executors beating 7* Executors, I think the release is perfectly reasonable...
... I'm happy to respectfully disagree over it... but that's my view if the matter.

I agree my fleet may be undergeared to beat it, but the entirety of my guild and fleet arena shard are struggling with countering without using Executor, and their fleets (particularly rebel fleets) are much stronger than mine... and they're having issues establishing a true hard counter.

"Nauros;c-2289597" wrote:

"HolyHandGrenade;c-2289594" wrote:

"Nauros;c-2289572" wrote:

"HolyHandGrenade;c-2289569" wrote:
Request the refund. iTunes Store refunded me the price of two vaults for “item not working as expected” reasons.

And did you get to keep your Executor? If yes, congratulations, you just scammed your way to free new meta...

How did I scam my way? A scam would imply I intended to request a refund before I even unlocked the Executor. I have spent plenty on this game and never once requested a refund. CG did a very poor job testing this ship and, in their billing of this ship to the community, sold it as a nearly unbeatable ship. This thread has already gone over all the evidence pointing to CG’s very poor roll out of the Executor. If anyone is guilty of scamming someone, it’s CG.

They very clearly said that it's not hitting the mark, you know it as well as I do. So you asked for a refund with full knowledge that it's going to be buffed. No refunds should go through after they posted that.

Facepalm

Been a week since they acknowledged it wasn’t working like they wanted. Can we get an update ? What’s being done.

"MaricSkywalker;c-2289606" wrote:
Been a week since they acknowledged it wasn’t working like they wanted. Can we get an update ? What’s being done.

Absolutely should have been an update by now. People are losing crystals that they wouldn't have otherwise in arena due to this. I'm more concerned about them fixing this but there should 100% be a make good on this if it goes on much longer.

"Nauros;c-2289700" wrote:

"Server21;c-2289699" wrote:
And now there is a date for its return.

The lack of movement in this is shocking even for CG

What? When? Where? Don't tell me they gave that to some lame podcast too.

Sept calendar.

They did say once a month, not surprising.

Executor comes back on the 18th, think they will have it fixed by then?