Fix broken TW matchmaking

"LordDirt;c-2453653" wrote:

"Tialishoma241;c-2453638" wrote:
Winning and losing tw has very little difference in rewards. Its not something to lose sleep over. Its nice when you do.

You must be in a small GP guild as I need all the droid brains possible.

I'm not in a small GP guild and have way more droid brains than I can use for quite some time.

"Phoenixeon;c-2453666" wrote:

"Fellah;c-2452248" wrote:
“TW is not mandatory in my guild but we are not sandbagging” hahah.. yes, you with a guild where only 40 players join TWs, are sandbagging. Call it what you want.

Usually officers ask everyone to join, who dont like free zeta mats (and robo brain if GS high enough)?

I like free stuff, but many in my guild like actually trying to win at TW. So if I don't have the time or desire to help out on offense I will sit out TW so I am not a drag on those who want to "compete."

Our next opponent has a 129-6 TW record. There is no way in the world we should have been matched with them. I guess the matchmaking algorithm does not apply to them.

"nottenst;c-2454447" wrote:
Our next opponent has a 129-6 TW record. There is no way in the world we should have been matched with them. I guess the matchmaking algorithm does not apply to them.

is overall win record supposed to be part of the matchmaking?

why would it be?

"TVF;c-2454478" wrote:

"nottenst;c-2454447" wrote:
Our next opponent has a 129-6 TW record. There is no way in the world we should have been matched with them. I guess the matchmaking algorithm does not apply to them.

is overall win record supposed to be part of the matchmaking?

why would it be?

Supposedly, recent win record is supposed to be part of matchmaking, but that is hard to determine from what we've seen.

I think it might be good for overall win record to be part. This guild we are facing right now has their TW game down pat. It would be good for those elite guilds to go against each other. To have a challenge instead of rolling over every guild they face.

Here are the scores from their last 8 matches

17878-12969
16794-12169
19806-13046
21267-14485
24049-9544
21850-14242
19006-10489
20526-18048

Only the 8th one was close.

I don't know what the game's actual goal in matchmaking is, but I doubt that this is how it is supposed to work.

Similarly our last match was against a guild that is now 45-100. I don't think we should have been matched up against them either.

Our guild is 75-71 right now, so overall it might seem that matchmaking is producing the intended result for our guild, but it doesn't appear to be doing so for the guild we are facing right now and the previous one.

It seems to have been a couple years since we last heard any word on TW matchmaking, maybe it is time for CG to say something again.

"nottenst;c-2454540" wrote:

"TVF;c-2454478" wrote:

"nottenst;c-2454447" wrote:
Our next opponent has a 129-6 TW record. There is no way in the world we should have been matched with them. I guess the matchmaking algorithm does not apply to them.

is overall win record supposed to be part of the matchmaking?

why would it be?

Supposedly, recent win record is supposed to be part of matchmaking, but that is hard to determine from what we've seen.

I think it might be good for overall win record to be part. This guild we are facing right now has their TW game down pat. It would be good for those elite guilds to go against each other. To have a challenge instead of rolling over every guild they face.

Here are the scores from their last 8 matches

17878-12969
16794-12169
19806-13046
21267-14485
24049-9544
21850-14242
19006-10489
20526-18048

Only the 8th one was close.

I don't know what the game's actual goal in matchmaking is, but I doubt that this is how it is supposed to work.

Similarly our last match was against a guild that is now 45-100. I don't think we should have been matched up against them either.

Our guild is 75-71 right now, so overall it might seem that matchmaking is producing the intended result for our guild, but it doesn't appear to be doing so for the guild we are facing right now and the previous one.

It seems to have been a couple years since we last heard any word on TW matchmaking, maybe it is time for CG to say something again.

I don't think it is the win record, I think it is your loss record, after so many losses they try to throw you a bone.

"scuba;c-2454595" wrote:


I don't think it is the win record, I think it is your loss record, after so many losses they try to throw you a bone.

From what I remember from the original post when they made the change from purely active GP, I think they were only looking at the past 2 TWs and so yes, after two losses they try to throw you a bone. I think they should look at more than just the past two TWs. The data is readily available. Elite guilds should go up against other elite guilds.

Utterly dominating another guild in TW is good for a laugh, but nothing beats the TW experience of a winning a close match in the final hour. That experience should be the goal of matchmaking.

Yes, my guild decided to sandbag tw. After last month going against 550mil guilds which are sandbaging, we decided to do the same. Just to have higher chance to get an oponent that gives us a chance to win or interesting game.

"nottenst;c-2454613" wrote:

"scuba;c-2454595" wrote:


I don't think it is the win record, I think it is your loss record, after so many losses they try to throw you a bone.

From what I remember from the original post when they made the change from purely active GP, I think they were only looking at the past 2 TWs and so yes, after two losses they try to throw you a bone. I think they should look at more than just the past two TWs. The data is readily available. Elite guilds should go up against other elite guilds.

Utterly dominating another guild in TW is good for a laugh, but nothing beats the TW experience of a winning a close match in the final hour. That experience should be the goal of matchmaking.

Really it should go to a SR similar to GA. GP in TW is as dumb of a matching making criteria as it was in GA.
That and they need way better tools for TW.
I find it simpler to sit out and let others that care about it so it.