Fix your broken GAC matchmaking!!!

"Gale_Toral;c-2313101" wrote:

"nottenst;c-2313037" wrote:
You would think that it would only be logical for non-GL rosters to be matched against non-GL rosters after they took away non-GL counters to GLs. Unfortunately, CG is not logical (except when it comes to trying to monetize their game). Still, be careful about what you wish for, because after many complaints about the matchmaking in TW, they did change it and it looks to be even worse than it was before. People complained about how they changed Conquest and made it more of a grind and they just made it worse.

Why? No seriously, why? Why should people flourish in a PVP environment in a game where there is a clearly defined meta when they do not work towards that meta?

Why should people who are laser focused on achieving that meta being almost punished by ONLY going against people with the same focus?

Why should those who made bad or uninformed roster decisions be rewarded by ONLY going against those who made similarly bad choices?

This line of thinking makes no sense in a COMPETITIVE environment and only serves as an excuse, and a bad one at that.

It must be too hard for you to comprehend, but it is because CG changed the rules. Those people who went after the non-GL counters to GLs were NOT making a bad or uninformed roster decision at the time. There was no way to know that CG would nerf all those counters.

"Gale_Toral;c-2313221" wrote:

"nottenst;c-2313125" wrote:
It must be too hard for you to comprehend, but it is because CG changed the rules. Those people who went after the non-GL counters to GLs were NOT making a bad or uninformed roster decision at the time. There was no way to know that CG would nerf all those counters.

No I would argue that it was a bad decision to chase a counter as opposed to getting the OP unit itself. Why wouldn't you want to put yourself at an advantage? I repeat, this is a competitive game. Either move with the competition and strive to be on top in all game modes or fall behind. It's the exact same in any competitive environment.

Building a known counter to one GL while working on another GL is not a bad decision in the game unless CG pulls the rug from under you and nerfs that counter. GAC is not the whole game. I doubt that people who are solely focused on GLs are on top in all game modes. There are many valid reasons for building non-GL squads in other aspects of the game. By ignoring GLs in the matchmaking process, they are making GAC and TW a worse experience than what they've done to Conquest.

Ideally when you see who you are matched up against you should think that you have a chance to win the match. If your opponent somehow has 2 or 3 more GLs than you do, you know right away that the odds are remote that you can win. The point of matchmaking should be that the matches are competitive and not an outright laugher on one side or the other.

"nottenst;c-2313125" wrote:

"Gale_Toral;c-2313101" wrote:

"nottenst;c-2313037" wrote:
You would think that it would only be logical for non-GL rosters to be matched against non-GL rosters after they took away non-GL counters to GLs. Unfortunately, CG is not logical (except when it comes to trying to monetize their game). Still, be careful about what you wish for, because after many complaints about the matchmaking in TW, they did change it and it looks to be even worse than it was before. People complained about how they changed Conquest and made it more of a grind and they just made it worse.

Why? No seriously, why? Why should people flourish in a PVP environment in a game where there is a clearly defined meta when they do not work towards that meta?

Why should people who are laser focused on achieving that meta being almost punished by ONLY going against people with the same focus?

Why should those who made bad or uninformed roster decisions be rewarded by ONLY going against those who made similarly bad choices?

This line of thinking makes no sense in a COMPETITIVE environment and only serves as an excuse, and a bad one at that.

It must be too hard for you to comprehend, but it is because CG changed the rules. Those people who went after the non-GL counters to GLs were NOT making a bad or uninformed roster decision at the time. There was no way to know that CG would nerf all those counters.

Hard to disagree with that. Still, how many now-useless-characters that are not prerequisites for GLs or Executor did you relic to build those counters ?

"Starslayer;c-2313565" wrote:

Hard to disagree with that. Still, how many now-useless-characters that are not prerequisites for GLs or Executor did you relic to build those counters ?

I don't think any of them are useless right now.

But in any case, even if you are going up against someone with 5 GLs and you only have 2 GL, you can win if the guy with 5 GLs never attacks. :)

I did manage to clear him (he placed 2 GLs on defense) with only one battle taking 2 attacks that was in his lower rear. My GL vs GL battles somehow went a lot easier than expected. Since he didn't attack I don't know whether I would have won anyway. I also really have no clear idea how he kept his GP down so low while getting 5 GLs. You never know.

"TommoTommo1234;c-2322607" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2321454" wrote:

"TommoTommo1234;c-2320899" wrote:

I am continually matched against teams of 4, 5 or 6 GL's (I have none), which is why I just join and ignore it.

If you built up a 7 or 8 million GP roster - which is what you'd have if you were drawing 5 or 6 GL opponents - without a single GL of your own then that is entirely your fault.

Though frankly I agree with DarjeloSalas that your claim is a steaming pile of pudu.

That's not how GAC used to work. In the past the matchmaking was broken. You actual GP had NO relevance to who you got matched against. You can scream and yell all you want like a little ea sycophant, but you're wrong.

I don't know if it's been fixed yet. We'll see.

If you were running a multi-million GP roster without a single GL before this matchmaking change you would still have been screwed and it would still have been all your own fault.

And your claim is still a steaming pile of pudu.

I don't mind facing people with 1 GL more than me at all but my entire bracket had 4-5 GL's when I have 2. I feel like I should be able to at least have a chance to win. I'm FTP and I'm going up against newer whales who don't have much fat to their roster because they can afford to just whale out on specific characters. My roster doesn't have a lot of fat either but over the years I have leveled up some toons that haven't panned out. I didn't have the luxury of leveling them all at once.

"Asia7738;c-2325913" wrote:
I don't mind facing people with 1 GL more than me at all but my entire bracket had 4-5 GL's when I have 2. I feel like I should be able to at least have a chance to win. I'm FTP and I'm going up against newer whales who don't have much fat to their roster because they can afford to just whale out on specific characters. My roster doesn't have a lot of fat either but over the years I have leveled up some toons that haven't panned out. I didn't have the luxury of leveling them all at once.

You will continue to fall until you hit a point where you can win about half your matches. Might take a few more GAC brackets to get there but once you do, your matches should be more reasonable.

I think a simpler solution is to make each bracket of carbonite, bronzium, chromium, aurodiam etc. and the 1 through 5's have a GP that is the ideal CG recommends that higher GP's can not infiltrate lower brackets but would allow skillful players of lower GP to punch up but if knocked down they go back down as long as their GP is not above the threshold net sort of speak.

"harvestmouse;c-2345147" wrote:
GP isn't an accurate way of match making though. You have 2 guys at 3 million GP. One totally knows what they are doing and is very lean at 3 million. The other has no idea; no idea about mods, no idea about characters, no idea about how many teams they need, no idea about getting gear etc etc.

How much difference in GAC power could you possibly have at 3 million. 3 times as much?.... even more?

I think GLs are a big problem though. There shouldn't be such a massive step from the top legendary characters to the galactic legends. And with the more GLs added, the more it'll be a problem. At some point with GLs it'll become a paper,scissors,stone match like ships.

true but it's more consistent of not having completely lopsided matches. me a 3.2M player should not be facing a 5.5M player with 30 relics and 30 g12s and such. It's an issue when players are sandbagging their rating on purpose to go bully lower level players for more consistent 1st place rewards and just to smurf and troll on lower powered players.

"Hieroglyphics;c-2345228" wrote:

It's an issue when players are sandbagging their rating on purpose to go bully lower level players for more consistent 1st place rewards and just to smurf and troll on lower powered players.

Is this happening on a large scale though? I just don't see it. A player of 5.5 million would be far better off finishing 2nd - 4th every grand arena than sandbagging for a few wins.

I think far more likely is that there are players of 5.5 million not taking GAC seriously or rebelling against the system due to awards being removed from Arena.

I think a lot more of these lopsided GP GAC matches are won by the lower GP player, or are very close.

How about you post your ally code so we can see for ourselves?