Fleet mafia and new ship
What’s the point of the new ship if you’re locked out of your flight mafia?
Forum Discussion
"TrimleyGreen;c-2427602" wrote:
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2427585" wrote:
Meh fleet should get the same treatment as arena. Remove the crystals from players hand and give it back to CG. Works pretty good for 99% of the player base
Where do you get 99% from?
The ONLY players better off with crystals in GAC rather than Arena are the few who are in K1. The rest of us are worse off since the changes
I get way more crystals in GAC than I ever got in Squad arena or Fleet Arena. My daily payout for GAC crushes the the daily 50 to 100 Crystals I got daily in Squad depending on how I climbed each day. And I am nowhere near Kyber. Only people who got hosed are the top 10 or so people in each shard while the other few thousand in the shard started getting an appreciable crystal income from GAC."rickertron;c-2428474" wrote:
"TrimleyGreen;c-2427602" wrote:
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2427585" wrote:
Meh fleet should get the same treatment as arena. Remove the crystals from players hand and give it back to CG. Works pretty good for 99% of the player base
Where do you get 99% from?
The ONLY players better off with crystals in GAC rather than Arena are the few who are in K1. The rest of us are worse off since the changes
I get way more crystals in GAC than I ever got in Squad arena or Fleet Arena. My daily payout for GAC crushes the the daily 50 to 100 Crystals I got daily in Squad depending on how I climbed each day. And I am nowhere near Kyber. Only people who got hosed are the top 10 or so people in each shard while the other few thousand in the shard started getting an appreciable crystal income from GAC.
Yeah. Moving crystals away from the arena style modes helps the majority of the player base. It generally improved income and, at least in the case of arena -> GAC, the mode is less time strict. I can battle whenever I want for GAC instead of needing to monitor my phone for an entire hour to climb."BubbaFett;c-2428476" wrote:
"rickertron;c-2428474" wrote:
"TrimleyGreen;c-2427602" wrote:
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2427585" wrote:
Meh fleet should get the same treatment as arena. Remove the crystals from players hand and give it back to CG. Works pretty good for 99% of the player base
Where do you get 99% from?
The ONLY players better off with crystals in GAC rather than Arena are the few who are in K1. The rest of us are worse off since the changes
I get way more crystals in GAC than I ever got in Squad arena or Fleet Arena. My daily payout for GAC crushes the the daily 50 to 100 Crystals I got daily in Squad depending on how I climbed each day. And I am nowhere near Kyber. Only people who got hosed are the top 10 or so people in each shard while the other few thousand in the shard started getting an appreciable crystal income from GAC.
And how many of those "few thousand" actually do anything or did anything?
A good shard that is inclusive helps anyone that is capable of reaching the top spots.... If you are floundering around in ship arena not even cracking top 50 then you likely have junk ships and don't deserve anything more than the pity crystals CG already gives you...
The arena style mode doesn't reward a developed fleet roster, just having a single meta fleet and/or lucky placement in a good (inactive or cooperative) shard. Those people could have every other fleet well developed and win a roster wide fleet matchup, but lacking one fleet or being in an awful shard shouldn't kill income.- It would be good for someone like me who works shifts and can only get on at payout 1 week of every 3. That makes me a ‘casual’ and non-deserving of crystals apparently. But in all seriousness I wouldn’t move them. I don’t think there’s anywhere to move them to other than gac and there’s plenty there already.
"BubbaFett;c-2428476" wrote:
"rickertron;c-2428474" wrote:
"TrimleyGreen;c-2427602" wrote:
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2427585" wrote:
Meh fleet should get the same treatment as arena. Remove the crystals from players hand and give it back to CG. Works pretty good for 99% of the player base
Where do you get 99% from?
The ONLY players better off with crystals in GAC rather than Arena are the few who are in K1. The rest of us are worse off since the changes
I get way more crystals in GAC than I ever got in Squad arena or Fleet Arena. My daily payout for GAC crushes the the daily 50 to 100 Crystals I got daily in Squad depending on how I climbed each day. And I am nowhere near Kyber. Only people who got hosed are the top 10 or so people in each shard while the other few thousand in the shard started getting an appreciable crystal income from GAC.
And how many of those "few thousand" actually do anything or did anything?
A good shard that is inclusive helps anyone that is capable of reaching the top spots.... If you are floundering around in ship arena not even cracking top 50 then you likely have junk ships and don't deserve anything more than the pity crystals CG already gives you...
I flounder around top 50 and have Profundity. Many of the original shards are highly competitive even now and come with restrictive mafia."Itsa_me_Malario;c-2428240" wrote:
"Scottgreen;c-2428207" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2428164" wrote:
"TVF;c-2428145" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2428144" wrote:
"TVF;c-2428111" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2428103" wrote:
"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:
Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?
Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh
So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?
Please explain what 'casuals' means.
People that don't climb often but when they do they don't respect payouts because they don't know and don't care.
Well if they are not let into the chat of course they don't know the times, that's what the chat is for, to be able to coordinate. If the Mafia decides not to include everyone that might be able to climb, they shouldn't be surprised if those players then are knocking them down while climbing if they don't know whose payout is when. Especially if they are/were one of those Mafias that actively try to prevent them from climbing and gang(ed) up.
Sounds to me the commenter in question is now frustrated because some of the shard members don't participate in that kind of ganging up anymore and actually let those not included play the game and climb.
If that is the case then I do not feel sorry for the commenter.
Don't know why you quoted me I'm just answering the question of what a casual is.
Sure. And while it seems to me you were just answering a question (thsnk you) - the casual player might not be hitting top 5 or top 10 regularly if they're typically stopped from doing so. This is kind of the problem with shut-door fleet chats. The casual is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Pretty sure you are the same AlexaderG in my fleet shard..you are considered an "enemy" in our chat due to sniping members in the chat at their PO.
Our payout chat only shows and identifies members and "enemies" we all help eachother to obtain the most crystals. We do not have a shut door we invite anyone who asks to join., but we do notice who is respectful of others and who is not..and help eachother
This is why CG should remove the crystals from the fleet too, be a good little dog and ask us to let you in our little club or we will do everything we can to not let you climb. Players just ganging up on others, its a competitive game everyone is out for themselves but these people are ganging up, in any other game you all would get banned lol ? imagine queuing for a solo BR game to see 10 people working together, all 10 would get banned in the same day
Exactly. The shard mafia are the most unfair aspect of this entire game."TVF;c-2428242" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2428239" wrote:
"TVF;c-2428236" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2428230" wrote:
"Scottgreen;c-2428207" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2428164" wrote:
"TVF;c-2428145" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2428144" wrote:
"TVF;c-2428111" wrote:
"AlexanderG;c-2428103" wrote:
"Rhydia;c-2428101" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2428090" wrote:
Way to prove the point of the thread. Where is the problem to include everyone and work together?
Fellow mobsters and casuals? No... they are all players, smh
So are you saying there’s no such thing as casuals?
Please explain what 'casuals' means.
People that don't climb often but when they do they don't respect payouts because they don't know and don't care.
Well if they are not let into the chat of course they don't know the times, that's what the chat is for, to be able to coordinate. If the Mafia decides not to include everyone that might be able to climb, they shouldn't be surprised if those players then are knocking them down while climbing if they don't know whose payout is when. Especially if they are/were one of those Mafias that actively try to prevent them from climbing and gang(ed) up.
Sounds to me the commenter in question is now frustrated because some of the shard members don't participate in that kind of ganging up anymore and actually let those not included play the game and climb.
If that is the case then I do not feel sorry for the commenter.
Don't know why you quoted me I'm just answering the question of what a casual is.
Sure. And while it seems to me you were just answering a question (thsnk you) - the casual player might not be hitting top 5 or top 10 regularly if they're typically stopped from doing so. This is kind of the problem with shut-door fleet chats. The casual is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Pretty sure you are the same AlexaderG in my fleet shard..you are considered an "enemy" in our chat due to sniping members in the chat at their PO.
Our payout chat only shows and identifies members and "enemies" we all help eachother to obtain the most crystals. We do not have a shut door we invite anyone who asks to join., but we do notice who is respectful of others and who is not..and help eachother
I start to climb about 45 minutes before my payout and try and do the bare minimum number of battles to try and minimise disrupting anyone else
I don't know your payout time or anyone elses and I've never been invited into any chat.
If you think having maybe 3 or 4 battles over a 24 hour period (and always close to my payout is unreasonable) then I really don't get it. Or you.
You can look up people's times on gg to avoid hitting them in their time. You can also find out how to get into a chat by messaging people. If you're not in a chat and you're causing problems, it's on you unless the chat has shut you out.
That's helpful (point about .gg - thanks) but the first I'd heard about being a problem or an enemy is via the above post. Anyone from that fleet shard could have messaged me at anytime. They haven't.
What I wrote above is 100% correct, I climb late and do the fewest battles I can. I think that's being respectful. It's not the sort of "casual" play that has been discussed in this thread. .
I've not intentionally sniped anyone but I'm branded as an enemy - apparently. There's seemingly a chat, they've decided the rules but decided that someone who isn't in the club and doesn't know their rules, or payouts is an enemy. And has never been invited anyway.
Seems pretty messed up.
They don't know any of this. All they know is someone is messing up their payouts. If it's causing a problem for you, you can try to fix it.
That is wrong. The mafia may think it is their payout but it is not theirs. I wish CG would hand out bans for mafia who gang up on other players."iMalevolence;c-2428471" wrote:
Nah. Rewards just need moved to a mode where people can't game the system against other players by breaking TOS. Or CG needs to crack down on people breaking TOS in that mode.
I agree. Additionally if CG would ban some of the mafia breaking the TOS, then this despicable behavior would stop."BubbaFett;c-2428504" wrote:
"HershBathens;c-2428496" wrote:
"BubbaFett;c-2428476" wrote:
"rickertron;c-2428474" wrote:
"TrimleyGreen;c-2427602" wrote:
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2427585" wrote:
Meh fleet should get the same treatment as arena. Remove the crystals from players hand and give it back to CG. Works pretty good for 99% of the player base
Where do you get 99% from?
The ONLY players better off with crystals in GAC rather than Arena are the few who are in K1. The rest of us are worse off since the changes
I get way more crystals in GAC than I ever got in Squad arena or Fleet Arena. My daily payout for GAC crushes the the daily 50 to 100 Crystals I got daily in Squad depending on how I climbed each day. And I am nowhere near Kyber. Only people who got hosed are the top 10 or so people in each shard while the other few thousand in the shard started getting an appreciable crystal income from GAC.
And how many of those "few thousand" actually do anything or did anything?
A good shard that is inclusive helps anyone that is capable of reaching the top spots.... If you are floundering around in ship arena not even cracking top 50 then you likely have junk ships and don't deserve anything more than the pity crystals CG already gives you...
I flounder around top 50 and have Profundity. Many of the original shards are highly competitive even now and come with restrictive mafia.
Top 50 doesn't say much.....
7* profundity and get locked out of top 20 by a mafia that has been harassing me for 7 months. Why should I be short 350 crystals daily?"BubbaFett;c-2428517" wrote:
"HershBathens;c-2428512" wrote:
"BubbaFett;c-2428504" wrote:
"HershBathens;c-2428496" wrote:
"BubbaFett;c-2428476" wrote:
"rickertron;c-2428474" wrote:
"TrimleyGreen;c-2427602" wrote:
"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2427585" wrote:
Meh fleet should get the same treatment as arena. Remove the crystals from players hand and give it back to CG. Works pretty good for 99% of the player base
Where do you get 99% from?
The ONLY players better off with crystals in GAC rather than Arena are the few who are in K1. The rest of us are worse off since the changes
I get way more crystals in GAC than I ever got in Squad arena or Fleet Arena. My daily payout for GAC crushes the the daily 50 to 100 Crystals I got daily in Squad depending on how I climbed each day. And I am nowhere near Kyber. Only people who got hosed are the top 10 or so people in each shard while the other few thousand in the shard started getting an appreciable crystal income from GAC.
And how many of those "few thousand" actually do anything or did anything?
A good shard that is inclusive helps anyone that is capable of reaching the top spots.... If you are floundering around in ship arena not even cracking top 50 then you likely have junk ships and don't deserve anything more than the pity crystals CG already gives you...
I flounder around top 50 and have Profundity. Many of the original shards are highly competitive even now and come with restrictive mafia.
Top 50 doesn't say much.....
Depends on the activity of the shard. Whenever I push I to top 20, I quickly get chained down.
20 is very different than 50...Have you tried reaching out to them?
Except it's not. Because 21-50 is the exact same payout. And getting pushed out of top 20 by a shard that behaves like that means you might as well be 50th.
