Why are they not in the game? I understand that it is controversial if they are canon or not, but that's not what this thread will be about. Since there is now a growing popularity in Empire AND Rebel teams (Wiggs and EP) why would they not utilize some of the best Empire Rebel fighters that have already been shown to be popular to the gamer community. Galen Marek, Juno Eclipse, Ram Kota, Proxie, and even some of the iconic fodder enemies for both sides. Galen, Juno, and Proxie, could all count as Empire and Rebel, to possibly link the two synergies. Ram Kota would have strong synergy with Galen and possibly give him buffs and operate as the tank of the group. Galen would have an basic like Ashoka's (basically the same animation, and same utility with the health steal) and an AOE similar to EP's but not as strong so that EP would still be better. Galen wouldn't have a leader ability, and I would go as far as to say that none of these toons would have leader abilities either to promote synergy with either Empire or Rebel teams. Juno could give Galen a buff on death like Old Ben, and maybe be a FOTP type of toon. Proxie would be arguably the most interesting. At the start of the encounter he mirror copies one of your opponents toons. So say you are fighting a team with RG, Proxie could start as RG. Once you defeat Proxie as the copy, he would revive at 25% health, and maybe even up to 50% on Omega. Also when he is Proxie and not a copy he would have no attacks, just a taunt and a team heal. What do y'all think? I'd love to go more in depth but I think this start is already too long.

I know you stated this is not a canon discussion but force unleashed is not canon. If the character tags are vetted by Lucasfilms https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/670118#Comment_670118I would guess that the characters added are also vetted by Lucasfilms, and this is the reason for some slow releases of new characters and would be even longer for approval of non-canon characters.

"scuba;677227" wrote:I know you stated this is not a canon discussion but force unleashed is not canon. If the character tags are vetted by Lucasfilms https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/670118#Comment_670118I would guess that the characters added are also vetted by Lucasfilms, and this is the reason for some slow releases of new characters and would be even longer for approval of non-canon characters. I stated that I don't want to debate why these characters are not canon, when HK 47 apparently is, as well as characters like Scarriff Rebel Pathfinder whom haven't been in any film or series that would be considered canon. The fact that they have canon versus not canon in this universe is ludicrous and I will always ignore that debate as it isn't ever going to stay the same. For instance, the current Boba Fett has the ability to come back after being defeated. Why? In the Star Wars canon, Boba Fett died by the Sarlac, it is only in the non canon did he survive and come back. This same logic is used for many of the character in this game. So for the developer to simply ignore an entire franchise purely based on a perspective debate is absurd.

"JediGhost117;677383" wrote:"scuba;677227" wrote:I know you stated this is not a canon discussion but force unleashed is not canon. If the character tags are vetted by Lucasfilms https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/670118#Comment_670118I would guess that the characters added are also vetted by Lucasfilms, and this is the reason for some slow releases of new characters and would be even longer for approval of non-canon characters. I stated that I don't want to debate why these characters are not canon, when HK 47 apparently is, as well as characters like Scarriff Rebel Pathfinder whom haven't been in any film or series that would be considered canon. The fact that they have canon versus not canon in this universe is ludicrous and I will always ignore that debate as it isn't ever going to stay the same. For instance, the current Boba Fett has the ability to come back after being defeated. Why? In the Star Wars canon, Boba Fett died by the Sarlac, it is only in the non canon did he survive and come back. This same logic is used for many of the character in this game. So for the developer to simply ignore an entire franchise purely based on a perspective debate is absurd. I understand you don't want to get into that debate and don't blame you. I am not trying to say if they are not canon they can't be in the game because I don't believe that. However my point was if character tags need approval by Lucasfilms I would think characters would also. Canon characters, or closer to canon generic characters will probably get a faster easier approval than non-canon characters will, so they get added more.

"scuba;677385" wrote:"JediGhost117;677383" wrote:"scuba;677227" wrote:I know you stated this is not a canon discussion but force unleashed is not canon. If the character tags are vetted by Lucasfilms https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/670118#Comment_670118I would guess that the characters added are also vetted by Lucasfilms, and this is the reason for some slow releases of new characters and would be even longer for approval of non-canon characters. I stated that I don't want to debate why these characters are not canon, when HK 47 apparently is, as well as characters like Scarriff Rebel Pathfinder whom haven't been in any film or series that would be considered canon. The fact that they have canon versus not canon in this universe is ludicrous and I will always ignore that debate as it isn't ever going to stay the same. For instance, the current Boba Fett has the ability to come back after being defeated. Why? In the Star Wars canon, Boba Fett died by the Sarlac, it is only in the non canon did he survive and come back. This same logic is used for many of the character in this game. So for the developer to simply ignore an entire franchise purely based on a perspective debate is absurd. I understand you don't want to get into that debate and don't blame you. I am not trying to say if they are not canon they can't be in the game because I don't believe that. However my point was if character tags need approval by Lucasfilms I would think characters would also. Canon characters, or closer to canon generic characters will probably get a faster easier approval than non-canon characters will, so they get added more. I'm going to disagree with you there. The developers have the ability to add whomever they please. They have already demonstrated that class tags can be edited and augmented as needed with the scoundrel event now including IG88 and ST Han. The argument that they HAVE to wait for class tags, I chalk up to they don't have the money to pay the developers enough to make the characters that the people want. That's why Jedi Knight Luke, and General Kenobi haven't been released yet.

"JediGhost117;677394" wrote:"scuba;677385" wrote:"JediGhost117;677383" wrote:"scuba;677227" wrote:I know you stated this is not a canon discussion but force unleashed is not canon. If the character tags are vetted by Lucasfilms https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/670118#Comment_670118I would guess that the characters added are also vetted by Lucasfilms, and this is the reason for some slow releases of new characters and would be even longer for approval of non-canon characters. I stated that I don't want to debate why these characters are not canon, when HK 47 apparently is, as well as characters like Scarriff Rebel Pathfinder whom haven't been in any film or series that would be considered canon. The fact that they have canon versus not canon in this universe is ludicrous and I will always ignore that debate as it isn't ever going to stay the same. For instance, the current Boba Fett has the ability to come back after being defeated. Why? In the Star Wars canon, Boba Fett died by the Sarlac, it is only in the non canon did he survive and come back. This same logic is used for many of the character in this game. So for the developer to simply ignore an entire franchise purely based on a perspective debate is absurd. I understand you don't want to get into that debate and don't blame you. I am not trying to say if they are not canon they can't be in the game because I don't believe that. However my point was if character tags need approval by Lucasfilms I would think characters would also. Canon characters, or closer to canon generic characters will probably get a faster easier approval than non-canon characters will, so they get added more. I'm going to disagree with you there. The developers have the ability to add whomever they please. They have already demonstrated that class tags can be edited and augmented as needed with the scoundrel event now including IG88 and ST Han. The argument that they HAVE to wait for class tags, I chalk up to they don't have the money to pay the developers enough to make the characters that the people want. That's why Jedi Knight Luke, and General Kenobi haven't been released yet.I can only go with what the developers have stated which is the tags have to be vetted by Lucasfilms We don't assign tags lightly. All tags are very carefully vetted by Lucasfilm, and they have final say (as it should be, it's their IP). Darth Sidious isn't a Separatist, even if he had some behind the scenes dealings with Dooku, he wasn't actively fighting for the Separatist cause.https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/670118#Comment_670118I am guessing if something as simple as tags have to be vetted by Lucasfilms than characters would also. You can feel free to argue with and call @CG_CapGaSP out on it, about the tags, but I would tend to believe his statement.

Force Unleashed Toons | EA Forums

22 Replies

US_Underdog
9 years ago
"Courier;679420" wrote:
OP is in dire need of enemies, even treating friendly arguments as hostile ones.

Chill. Relax. Eventually we will have every possible SW franchise characters they can bring into the game. Just not now, not this instant.

I'm not looking for enemies, I'm just debating how normal people debate. I've taken a stance against somebody and I will support that side forever. It's not my fault that this guy misinterpreted what I intended for this thread to be. Check out my new thread if you need the clearer meaning of what I was hoping to accomplish. I state black and white what I want to accomplish for these characters.
scuba75
Legend
9 years ago
"JediGhost117;679374" wrote:
"scuba;678107" wrote:
"JediGhost117;678061" wrote:

So your argument is that they are going to hop on the hype train, and ignore these forums completely when it comes to characters. People in here have been hyping up for R2 for months now, and he still is not any closer to being released. Despite this, they release a toon that nobody knows anything about, with abilities that we don't even know are going to reflect what that character actually does. The Forced Unleashed games are already done and dusted. We have all of the source material for these characters and could make a highly accurate representation of these characters in this game. But instead of doing that they decide to release characters that we have no idea who they are or their significance to the story as it hasn't even been told yet.

Yes I do think they will go for the hype. This is a game created by a business determined to make money. A new Star Wars movie release will be great for that business. No I don't think they will ignore the forums completely about new character adds.

Maybe you are taking what I am saying wrong I don't know. I don't disagree that they should be added, I am not against new character adds from any previous forms that they existed in c word or not. I would love to see all the characters you named, along with starkiller and many more from the EU.

You initial post was why they were not added. Not add these characters or can they be added. It included reason why they should be added to the game which I agree with.

I was simply giving you my opinion to the question as to why they are not in the game now, and why it might be sometime before it happens. I have formed this opinion based on what I have seen so far in the game of character releases and Dev's comments on other Star Wars IP, which I don't like but it is there.

I also think R2 will be released when the new raid is ready for release.

That's not what I said at all. I posed the question why these characters weren't already in the game? I then proposed what they could do in the context of the game. You then took it as they would have to be cleared and that's why they can't be in the game. You started this argument and you have flipped positions multiple times. First you said that they would hop on the hype train, then you said that they wouldn't for these characters, and then you said they would hop on the hype train for the new movie. Make up your mind already.

May be I took you original question wrong if so sorry about that. To me it looked like you were asking why these characters where not in the game yet. Again I never stated that they would not or will not be in the game or that I was against adding them to the game, I stated why it might be easier to add other characters and why we have certain ones in game over others currently.

I have not flip flopped. I clearly stated that I think they will cash in on the hype but I also don't think they will completely ignore the players request. Believe it or not it is possible to both, doesn't have to be one or the other.

So my position has been and always was they will probably try to do both.

I also never even argued or disagreed with you reasons of what they could do in game.

My first comment was never that they wouldn't be added just about how fast or slow they may be added. You are the one that seems to have taken that my stance is against them being added and it is and never was.

Forum Discussion

Force Unleashed Toons

22 Replies

Featured Places

SWGOH General Discussion

Community Highlights

Weekly Shipment Request

Recent Discussions

Is 200 the new 100?

Maul (Hate-Fueled) Stuck at Level 52

Thumbs down!

Coliseum got me banned

Mace windu event returning when?