This is a formal complaint to developers. It is yet another issue with the recent broken characters. This game is all about combos and synergy, and a lot of us understand that very well. Most toons are fairly balanced, and yes, there will be certain "must haves." Today in GW I was faced with the amazing team of GK lead, bariss, fives, and chaze. The team was outstanding and very well developed. The issue I'm seeing is that while people complain about chaze ( and rightfully so, they are extremely OP), this combo is truly a prize for the lucky ones or the ones who drop the most money. They aren't unbeatable, just demand certain toons be used from an otherwise overlooked roster.With that said, Bariss's zeta ability is completely broken. Even the removal of all crit chance mods, and still the team gains health by RNG ruled in their favor. I could've easily taken the team out eventually, however if have to score consecutive regular hits, relying completely on the hope that RNG allows it, which it most certainly will not. With everyone healing to such a degree the demand for smaller hits is nothing you can strategize for, and therefore unrealistic. Developers, please recognize this and perhaps address the flaw in this design. Unless the game is headed to a massive paywall where everyone has to get ahead for zeta.

Every "cancer" has its counter. If you're getting node 12 like those, you should definitely load up (TM) on 2 or 3 teams. I'd beat that team with EP, B2, TP + 2 random toons...If you were complaining that you couldn't beat a certain team in arena, I'd understand, but GW?

"Gutazedo;843354" wrote:Every "cancer" has its counter. If you're getting node 12 like those, you should definitely load up (TM) on 2 or 3 teams. I'd beat that team with EP, B2, TP + 2 random toons...If you were complaining that you couldn't beat a certain team in arena, I'd understand, but GW?Believe me that team is tougher than you think, your Ep can't shock more than one toon at a time between all the cleanses from Chirrut, GK and Barriss. It's not unbeatable but you need to approach a build like that with more of a strategy than "I'll just toss EP, TFP and B2 with some scrubs at them"

I remember people saying the same about so many characters in the game... Dooku, Rey, Poe, Wiggs, Lando, Shore... every single time it's "hey, this is so OP it must be broken, pls nerf". A couple of weeks/months pass and it turns out that what used to be OP is now ridiculously UNDERpowered because someone came up with a counter. Zap her with Palpie, throw some healing blocks on the team... there's always a way.

B2 and Boba is the anti Chaze. While Chaze is a powerfully combo, esp with zeta barriss, it's easily beatable with the right team.

"Ring;843367" wrote:I remember people saying the same about so many characters in the game... Dooku, Rey, Poe, Wiggs, Lando, Shore... every single time it's "hey, this is so OP it must be broken, pls nerf". A couple of weeks/months pass and it turns out that what used to be OP is now ridiculously UNDERpowered because someone came up with a counter. Zap her with Palpie, throw some healing blocks on the team... there's always a way.This ^I think that none of this "new" toons/combos has ('till today) plssed me off more than Old Ben's lead teams with a ST Han that dodged QGJ's humbling blow used to.

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Gutazedo
8 years ago
Every "cancer" has its counter. If you're getting node 12 like those, you should definitely load up (TM) on 2 or 3 teams. I'd beat that team with EP, B2, TP + 2 random toons...
If you were complaining that you couldn't beat a certain team in arena, I'd understand, but GW?
Kekattia
8 years ago
"Gutazedo;843354" wrote:
Every "cancer" has its counter. If you're getting node 12 like those, you should definitely load up (TM) on 2 or 3 teams. I'd beat that team with EP, B2, TP + 2 random toons...
If you were complaining that you couldn't beat a certain team in arena, I'd understand, but GW?

Believe me that team is tougher than you think, your Ep can't shock more than one toon at a time between all the cleanses from Chirrut, GK and Barriss. It's not unbeatable but you need to approach a build like that with more of a strategy than "I'll just toss EP, TFP and B2 with some scrubs at them"
Ringwraith5
8 years ago
I remember people saying the same about so many characters in the game... Dooku, Rey, Poe, Wiggs, Lando, Shore... every single time it's "hey, this is so OP it must be broken, pls nerf". A couple of weeks/months pass and it turns out that what used to be OP is now ridiculously UNDERpowered because someone came up with a counter.

Zap her with Palpie, throw some healing blocks on the team... there's always a way.
Hybridplug
8 years ago
B2 and Boba is the anti Chaze. While Chaze is a powerfully combo, esp with zeta barriss, it's easily beatable with the right team.
Gutazedo
8 years ago
"Ring;843367" wrote:
I remember people saying the same about so many characters in the game... Dooku, Rey, Poe, Wiggs, Lando, Shore... every single time it's "hey, this is so OP it must be broken, pls nerf". A couple of weeks/months pass and it turns out that what used to be OP is now ridiculously UNDERpowered because someone came up with a counter.

Zap her with Palpie, throw some healing blocks on the team... there's always a way.

This ^

I think that none of this "new" toons/combos has ('till today) plssed me off more than Old Ben's lead teams with a ST Han that dodged QGJ's humbling blow used to.
Gutazedo
8 years ago
"KeKattia;843366" wrote:
"Gutazedo;843354" wrote:
Every "cancer" has its counter. If you're getting node 12 like those, you should definitely load up (TM) on 2 or 3 teams. I'd beat that team with EP, B2, TP + 2 random toons...
If you were complaining that you couldn't beat a certain team in arena, I'd understand, but GW?

Believe me that team is tougher than you think, your Ep can't shock more than one toon at a time between all the cleanses from Chirrut, GK and Barriss. It's not unbeatable but you need to approach a build like that with more of a strategy than "I'll just toss EP, TFP and B2 with some scrubs at them"

I'm not speaking theoretically...I know for sure that those 3 are what's required to beat that team. But like I said, it's all about having multiple toons with some TM before getting to that node 12, so you can have multiple approaches. For example, if my EP wouldn't stun the "key" toons, I'd have to swap a toon or two...
Nikka488
8 years ago
I agree with OP. I think Barriss's Zeta ability should end when she dies. If not then state it in the description of the ability. But in my mind it's about Arena. GW, although frustrating at times, at least gives you the chance to use more than one team if necessary.
Ringwraith5
8 years ago
"RiseOfBoxandthefuzz;843402" wrote:
Honestly, using Palps against that Chaze team is a huge liability.

But he CAN get your Biggs an extra turn which might be the difference between winning and losing. All you need is for Palpie to use his healing ability, which instantly refills Biggs' TM.
Kekattia
8 years ago
"Gutazedo;843395" wrote:

I'm not speaking theoretically...I know for sure that those 3 are what's required to beat that team. But like I said, it's all about having multiple toons with some TM before getting to that node 12, so you can have multiple approaches. For example, if my EP wouldn't stun the "key" toons, I'd have to swap a toon or two...

Then you have been lucky. I find EP not to be good even less great against Chaze, Zarriss combo, Boba is a lot better because of him ability blocking the cleanses and having bust damage with execute.
Persimius
Rising Traveler
8 years ago
"Ring;843411" wrote:
"RiseOfBoxandthefuzz;843402" wrote:
Honestly, using Palps against that Chaze team is a huge liability.

But he CAN get your Biggs an extra turn which might be the difference between winning and losing. All you need is for Palpie to use his healing ability, which instantly refills Biggs' TM.

Yeah, EP can get Biggs another turn, which will result in 1-3 crits, immediately filling the enemy HP bar. It's a very frustrating team, though I can beat it in 2 teams now instead of 5.