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9 years ago
@Lianara
Clearly the OP is the result, not the cause. You are probably right about it not being the sollution to a healthier admosphere on the forum, neither was your response for that matter. There is no moral high ground.
I don't know if you have ever tried to help people who are complaining about a certain aspect of the game, but i can tell you from my own experience and from what i've read in threads i didnt participate in, that suggestions and other points of view that might help are dismissed easily and often. When you try to help people and get shot in the face for it, it also creates a snowball effect.
You are right that its impossible to prove the snowball effect i discribed, but its highly unlikely that every single person arrived on the same conclusion independently. How many of them arrived on the same conclusion independently is open for debate. I think its mostly the severity of the issue gets exaggerated if many people share the same concern. Again, impossible to prove, but it's most likely happening nontheless.
"To me, the only difference is passive tone, the meaning, while less belligerent, is the same - stating that people that are unhappy should rather walk away from the situation rather then continue getting angry about it. It's not a completely wrong argument, but everyone has a different tolerance for negativity, and it's quiet possible that some, who are currently unhappy about the game, are complaining because they want it to succeed (fight or flight, I guess?)"
My statement wasnt about the quiting if you dont like it. It was about joining the complaintrain even though you actually still enjoy the game, otherwise they would have probably stopped playing. Some post dont even include what they are complaining about, just some good ol' EA/CG bashing. When you read some comments that are so gosh darn negative, that you can only conclude that there is no way the poster of said message is still playing this. There are more than a few of those, and they are probably still playing the game. So why do they post those messages? Seemed to fit the "conformity" part of the previous "groupthink" discussion.
Clearly the OP is the result, not the cause. You are probably right about it not being the sollution to a healthier admosphere on the forum, neither was your response for that matter. There is no moral high ground.
I don't know if you have ever tried to help people who are complaining about a certain aspect of the game, but i can tell you from my own experience and from what i've read in threads i didnt participate in, that suggestions and other points of view that might help are dismissed easily and often. When you try to help people and get shot in the face for it, it also creates a snowball effect.
You are right that its impossible to prove the snowball effect i discribed, but its highly unlikely that every single person arrived on the same conclusion independently. How many of them arrived on the same conclusion independently is open for debate. I think its mostly the severity of the issue gets exaggerated if many people share the same concern. Again, impossible to prove, but it's most likely happening nontheless.
"To me, the only difference is passive tone, the meaning, while less belligerent, is the same - stating that people that are unhappy should rather walk away from the situation rather then continue getting angry about it. It's not a completely wrong argument, but everyone has a different tolerance for negativity, and it's quiet possible that some, who are currently unhappy about the game, are complaining because they want it to succeed (fight or flight, I guess?)"
My statement wasnt about the quiting if you dont like it. It was about joining the complaintrain even though you actually still enjoy the game, otherwise they would have probably stopped playing. Some post dont even include what they are complaining about, just some good ol' EA/CG bashing. When you read some comments that are so gosh darn negative, that you can only conclude that there is no way the poster of said message is still playing this. There are more than a few of those, and they are probably still playing the game. So why do they post those messages? Seemed to fit the "conformity" part of the previous "groupthink" discussion.
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