"Lianara;578954" wrote:
Perhaps ... But, Op was wrong about groupthink, and Op's (and your) assumptions about motivation of the complaining player base are nothing more than that - an assumption, without anything backing it up. Forums don't break down when people complain about a commercial product. They do break down when posts like OP's start popping up.
Oh, and I can turn around and say that posts of complainers are also clearly the result of mishandled Mod patch.
This is just a horrible argument. We are debating something neither of us can proof, and you're dismissing it because its an assumption without anything backing it up. Your
assumption that it is in fact not what is happening on the forum currently, isnt backed up either. We both made assumptions that neither of us can proof, so simply calling it an assumption is just a hollow argument that looks good on paper.
I admittedly dont have alot of experience with fora, so i couldnt tell you if the 90% complaint threads cause a forum to break down, or the 10% of those complaint threads that are complaining about the complaints. And one could easily argue that posts like the OP's dont start popping up when there isnt a lot of complaining in the first place. Cause and effect, and assumptions on what makes a forum break down.
Obviously the mod patch was mishandled, no one is even debating that fact. Its about the the severity of the negativity that doesnt reflect how bad it really is, and that the negativity works contagious and the forum keeps getting more and more negative allthough the game itself is in a status quo, how good or bad that may be.
Where do you get the Highly Unlikely? Just guessing? Maybe it happened maybe not. Maybe 1% maybe 90% , without a way to prove it either way there is no argument to be had.
Agian, simply because i cant proof it doesnt mean it isnt happening. If i could actually proof it there wouldnt be an argument to be had. The whole "you cant proof prove it, so i dismiss it" attitude works really well to "win" in a discussion, but doesnt help neither of us. I assume you also would like a better game AND a healthier forum. We just disagree on how we can make that happen.
I think everything that could be said has been said on this topic. Lets just agree to disagree. Conclusion being that i think the sheer amount and severity of the complaint threads have a negative effect on the forum, and make it a less enjoyable place without actually benefitting the game. Toning those down a couple of nodges and leave room for constructive critisism would be better for the game and the forum.
You disagree with that, and thats fine.
