Okay so i see a lot of people complaining about being outmatched by their opponent in GA whether it’s unbalanced GP or more/less g12s. Well I've experienced both situations and still managed to win so its possible to beat someone better equipped than you! Ive even beat people with revan and i dont have revan. GA isnt just about raw numbers. You have to strategize and also use mods properly. When you see someone thats more powerful than you dont give up and/or not set defense or something. Try your best and you may be able to pull an unexpected win!My opponent this time:Me:

Or just post a meme and avoid the topic - that's cool too.

"Bubblechomp;c-1810485" wrote:"Waqui;c-1810474" wrote:"Bubblechomp;c-1810416" wrote:Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.Even and fair are not the same thing. The matches may not be even, but as long as we all battle for the same prizes, it's only fair to let players with stronger rosters benefit from their advantage.Wth is your definition of fair?My definition:When everybody is fighting for the same prizes (disregarding the strength of their rosters and previous performance) it's fair to mix players who have stronger rosters with players who have weaker rosters of approximately the same GP.Giving players with weaker rosters easier matches and easier access to top rewards would be unfair to players with stronger rosters. Why should players with stronger rosters have stronger opponents and a harder access to top rank rewards?

"leef;c-1810622" wrote:"Bubblechomp;c-1810611" wrote:"Waqui;c-1810579" wrote:"Bubblechomp;c-1810568" wrote:Guildmate of mine. His opponent has 20 fewer zetas and 21 fewer G11/12 teams. Same GP. My guildmate doesn’t deserve unjust advantage because CG has a lazy, garbage matchmaking algorithm in place. As long as we all fight for the same rewards it's not an 'unjust advantage'. One player built a stronger roster than the other. That's all.Your logic makes zero sense. The prize should be a reward for overcoming equally challenging opponents—how does it help the spirit of competition when one player can laughably stomp all over another? And let me remind you that CG sold the idea of Grand Arena as being pure competition, not muddied with Shard Chats or reliance from guild mates. It’s not fun for the player stomping nor being stomped on because both players, if they’re being honest, know that the match is a joke. Define "equally challenging" please. "One I can beat with my roster - not that 2.3M GP guy though...:"

"Kai_Mulai;c-1810789" wrote:"Bubblechomp;c-1810687" wrote:"Kai_Mulai;c-1810667" wrote:To legitimately be “equally challenging,” both players would need to have roughly equal zetas, gear 11 & 12 characters, arena ranks, mods, teams, legendary characters, knowledge of the game, and desire to compete in grand arena. That’s just not going to happen. Even the areas I mentioned that the developers can match are likely too much for their servers to compute in a reasonably short period. And so instead they match by power, which may be a bit simplistic compared to all the factors that it would take to ensure “fairness” or “equality”, but does a generally good job of giving fairly competitive matches. But players in the top 50 of either arena (or both) and paying players are usually going to do better in grand arena as well. DSR, a little Discord bot, can do it in seconds. ?DSR bot can read and report these factors. That’s much simpler. The game currently takes 5 minutes to match a few million players on one factor (galactic power). Complexity and time increase for each additional factor. If the game takes 5 minutes to match 1 factor, imagine how long it would take to match 4 factors or more. Keep in mind the time increase would be exponential for each additional factor. And considering people would still cmplain and there are additional factors such as who actually wants to try in grand arena and who doesn’t care, the developers probably thought the current strategy was the best one to balance server load and simplicity with reasonably balanced matchups.So your argument for a weeklong event that takes about 15 minutes in a 24 hour span is that it'd be too time consuming to look into more evenly graded rosters at matchmaking?!?!?

Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.

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cannonfodder_iv
New Spectator
6 years ago
Or just post a meme and avoid the topic - that's cool too.
Waquira
6 years ago
"Bubblechomp;c-1810485" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1810474" wrote:
"Bubblechomp;c-1810416" wrote:
Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.

Even and fair are not the same thing. The matches may not be even, but as long as we all battle for the same prizes, it's only fair to let players with stronger rosters benefit from their advantage.

Wth is your definition of fair?

My definition:
When everybody is fighting for the same prizes (disregarding the strength of their rosters and previous performance) it's fair to mix players who have stronger rosters with players who have weaker rosters of approximately the same GP.

Giving players with weaker rosters easier matches and easier access to top rewards would be unfair to players with stronger rosters. Why should players with stronger rosters have stronger opponents and a harder access to top rank rewards?
cannonfodder_iv
New Spectator
6 years ago
"leef;c-1810622" wrote:
"Bubblechomp;c-1810611" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1810579" wrote:
"Bubblechomp;c-1810568" wrote:

Guildmate of mine. His opponent has 20 fewer zetas and 21 fewer G11/12 teams. Same GP. My guildmate doesn’t deserve unjust advantage because CG has a lazy, garbage matchmaking algorithm in place.

As long as we all fight for the same rewards it's not an 'unjust advantage'. One player built a stronger roster than the other. That's all.

Your logic makes zero sense. The prize should be a reward for overcoming equally challenging opponents—how does it help the spirit of competition when one player can laughably stomp all over another? And let me remind you that CG sold the idea of Grand Arena as being pure competition, not muddied with Shard Chats or reliance from guild mates. It’s not fun for the player stomping nor being stomped on because both players, if they’re being honest, know that the match is a joke.

Define "equally challenging" please.

"One I can beat with my roster - not that 2.3M GP guy though...:"
dcccc0146fded83
6 years ago
"Kai_Mulai;c-1810789" wrote:
"Bubblechomp;c-1810687" wrote:
"Kai_Mulai;c-1810667" wrote:
To legitimately be “equally challenging,” both players would need to have roughly equal zetas, gear 11 & 12 characters, arena ranks, mods, teams, legendary characters, knowledge of the game, and desire to compete in grand arena. That’s just not going to happen. Even the areas I mentioned that the developers can match are likely too much for their servers to compute in a reasonably short period. And so instead they match by power, which may be a bit simplistic compared to all the factors that it would take to ensure “fairness” or “equality”, but does a generally good job of giving fairly competitive matches. But players in the top 50 of either arena (or both) and paying players are usually going to do better in grand arena as well.

DSR, a little Discord bot, can do it in seconds. ?

DSR bot can read and report these factors. That’s much simpler. The game currently takes 5 minutes to match a few million players on one factor (galactic power). Complexity and time increase for each additional factor. If the game takes 5 minutes to match 1 factor, imagine how long it would take to match 4 factors or more. Keep in mind the time increase would be exponential for each additional factor. And considering people would still cmplain and there are additional factors such as who actually wants to try in grand arena and who doesn’t care, the developers probably thought the current strategy was the best one to balance server load and simplicity with reasonably balanced matchups.

So your argument for a weeklong event that takes about 15 minutes in a 24 hour span is that it'd be too time consuming to look into more evenly graded rosters at matchmaking?!?!?
Bubblechomp
6 years ago
Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.
Waquira
6 years ago
"Bubblechomp;c-1810416" wrote:
Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.

Even and fair are not the same thing. The matches may not be even, but as long as we all battle for the same prizes, it's only fair to let players with stronger rosters benefit from their advantage.
Bubblechomp
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1810474" wrote:
"Bubblechomp;c-1810416" wrote:
Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.

Even and fair are not the same thing. The matches may not be even, but as long as we all battle for the same prizes, it's only fair to let players with stronger rosters benefit from their advantage.

Wth is your definition of fair?
cannonfodder_iv
New Spectator
6 years ago
"Bubblechomp;c-1810485" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1810474" wrote:
"Bubblechomp;c-1810416" wrote:
Just because you might, maybe have the potential to win doesn’t change the point that it’s often dramatically unfair, especially for a game mode that was advertised as the epitome of PvP competition in this game.

Even and fair are not the same thing. The matches may not be even, but as long as we all battle for the same prizes, it's only fair to let players with stronger rosters benefit from their advantage.

Wth is your definition of fair?

@Bubblechomp I think the better question is, what is yours?

Share a swgoh.gg profile, and that of your opponents and I'm sure you'll get some advice on how to play it.
Bubblechomp
6 years ago
Bubblechomp
6 years ago

Guildmate of mine. His opponent has 20 fewer zetas and 21 fewer G11/12 teams. Same GP. My guildmate doesn’t deserve unjust advantage because CG has a lazy, garbage matchmaking algorithm in place.