GAC 3v3 against GL rey? Instant loss....

"Whatelse73;c-2107507" wrote:
Wouldn't 3v3 be based on your top 66 characters since in div 1 you place 11 teams of 3 and have 11 teams for offense counting? Or is it still based on top 80? And as far as ship GP, do they count two full fleets of GP, or we still don't know?

Both of those should be the case but I have not seen conclusive proof one way or the other. In order to prove or disprove it, you would have to check the roster of every player in a bracket immediately after matchmaking and then calculate the various possible matchmaking GPs for each player to see which calculation had the smallest spread between lowest and highest GP.

"Legend91;c-2107380" wrote:

"TVF;c-2107376" wrote:
And thus taking away an incentive for people to spend to obtain the meta. Will never happen.

Depends on what GAC is supposed to be. A competetive mode with a higher focus on skill (fair matchmaking) or a competetive mode with a higher focus on P2W (disbalance in matchmaking).

This. CG has stated that GAC is supposed to be the former (almost all other aspects of the game are the latter - both arenas, raids, challenges, etc.) - but the matchmaking seems to indicate otherwise. I guess it's up to the player base to decide whether CG is incapable of creating a matchmaking algorithm that achieves their stated goal - or that their stated goal is not really their intention. :shrug:

"Nikoms565;c-2110022" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2107380" wrote:

"TVF;c-2107376" wrote:
And thus taking away an incentive for people to spend to obtain the meta. Will never happen.

Depends on what GAC is supposed to be. A competetive mode with a higher focus on skill (fair matchmaking) or a competetive mode with a higher focus on P2W (disbalance in matchmaking).

This. CG has stated that GAC is supposed to be the former (almost all other aspects of the game are the latter - both arenas, raids, challenges, etc.) - but the matchmaking seems to indicate otherwise. I guess it's up to the player base to decide whether CG is incapable of creating a matchmaking algorithm that achieves their stated goal - or that their stated goal is not really their intention. :shrug:

Matchmaking is by top {x} GP. The player controls what that GP is composed of.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2110062" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2110022" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2107380" wrote:

"TVF;c-2107376" wrote:
And thus taking away an incentive for people to spend to obtain the meta. Will never happen.

Depends on what GAC is supposed to be. A competetive mode with a higher focus on skill (fair matchmaking) or a competetive mode with a higher focus on P2W (disbalance in matchmaking).

This. CG has stated that GAC is supposed to be the former (almost all other aspects of the game are the latter - both arenas, raids, challenges, etc.) - but the matchmaking seems to indicate otherwise. I guess it's up to the player base to decide whether CG is incapable of creating a matchmaking algorithm that achieves their stated goal - or that their stated goal is not really their intention. :shrug:

Matchmaking is by top {x} GP. The player controls what that GP is composed of.

And with that being the case a fair matchmaking system would put players with similar farming choices against each other.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2110062" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2110022" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2107380" wrote:

"TVF;c-2107376" wrote:
And thus taking away an incentive for people to spend to obtain the meta. Will never happen.

Depends on what GAC is supposed to be. A competetive mode with a higher focus on skill (fair matchmaking) or a competetive mode with a higher focus on P2W (disbalance in matchmaking).

This. CG has stated that GAC is supposed to be the former (almost all other aspects of the game are the latter - both arenas, raids, challenges, etc.) - but the matchmaking seems to indicate otherwise. I guess it's up to the player base to decide whether CG is incapable of creating a matchmaking algorithm that achieves their stated goal - or that their stated goal is not really their intention. :shrug:

Matchmaking is by top {x} GP. The player controls what that GP is composed of.

The player controls what all their GP is composed of.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2110062" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2110022" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2107380" wrote:

"TVF;c-2107376" wrote:
And thus taking away an incentive for people to spend to obtain the meta. Will never happen.

Depends on what GAC is supposed to be. A competetive mode with a higher focus on skill (fair matchmaking) or a competetive mode with a higher focus on P2W (disbalance in matchmaking).

This. CG has stated that GAC is supposed to be the former (almost all other aspects of the game are the latter - both arenas, raids, challenges, etc.) - but the matchmaking seems to indicate otherwise. I guess it's up to the player base to decide whether CG is incapable of creating a matchmaking algorithm that achieves their stated goal - or that their stated goal is not really their intention. :shrug:

Matchmaking is by top {x} GP. The player controls what that GP is composed of.

GP is a very poor indicator of effectiveness. A zeta on QGJ's leadership is the same amount of GP as GSky's. That's part of the point.

CG has stated that "close matches" were the point of GAC - not every other game mode, just GAC. The incentive to spend on the current meta exists and is present in every other game mode - both arenas, raids, new challenge tiers, etc. But GAC matches where one person has a GLRey (which is about 5k more GP than the highest non-GL, even if you insist on using that flawed metric) and other players do not, will not be close. Can you beat them without a GL? Sure - but often at the cost of 3-4 other much needed teams.

Like I said, we either have to believe CG was disingenuous about wanting GAC matches to be close, or that they simply aren't capable of creating an algorithm that consistently does so. Which of those is true is irrelevant, because players have no control over either. It's not our game - it's CG's.

"Nikoms565;c-2110375" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2110062" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2110022" wrote:

"Legend91;c-2107380" wrote:

"TVF;c-2107376" wrote:
And thus taking away an incentive for people to spend to obtain the meta. Will never happen.

Depends on what GAC is supposed to be. A competetive mode with a higher focus on skill (fair matchmaking) or a competetive mode with a higher focus on P2W (disbalance in matchmaking).

This. CG has stated that GAC is supposed to be the former (almost all other aspects of the game are the latter - both arenas, raids, challenges, etc.) - but the matchmaking seems to indicate otherwise. I guess it's up to the player base to decide whether CG is incapable of creating a matchmaking algorithm that achieves their stated goal - or that their stated goal is not really their intention. :shrug:

Matchmaking is by top {x} GP. The player controls what that GP is composed of.

GP is a very poor indicator of effectiveness. A zeta on QGJ's leadership is the same amount of GP as GSky's. That's part of the point.

GP is not a measure of combat effectiveness at all, it is a measure of resource investment.

So players are matched with opponents who have a comparable amount of resources invested in their top {x} toons/ships.

How the players chose to invest those resources and balance the top end of their roster is up to the individual.

You don't have to go hardcore min-max to do well, in fact that can work against you, but if you fail to establish some kind of roster balance that you can work with then your GAC matches will be very difficult.

i got this GA round starting 19th May: 2 rey legend and 2 kylo legend owners, everyone else got also general anakin. for previous GA round 12th May: everyone got general anakin, no legends. i have no GL and still waitng for GAS event. since 12th of May no major upgrades as i was collecting gear for GAS. got 2 wins out of 3.

i guess the algorithm does reconize GL only as additional GP or relic levels, giving great bonus for the owners.

i would like to see any of CG team writing how to win round against GL without any GL and GAS. as algoritm matched me up against those players.

so to summarize:
- i am ready for GAS event, got almost all resources to get him to max level also got max his team.
-any purchase in the store for me were around 20 percent more costly ( not using USD as currency ),
-no GAS event, so GL owners got less resistance. also i believe this is because of GAS taking Kylo legend so easily.
-giving GL owners wins against test dummies like myself and additional rewards. no-GL owners are loosing their rewards.

i am done with that game. that is because someone in CG decided to favorize GL toons in all possible way.

You use a different currency to the USD so you shouldnt have to fight GL people in GAC...?
That's a new one.

writing this in case the money spend is a factor in GA matchmaking