So, @CG_Doja_Fett maybe you can get us some answers/insight into this.Especially now that there are 4 GL, people with 9mil gp, and the ilk, can we see changes to the gac map, particularly, adding 2-3 more defensive teams? This game mode is many of our favorite mode in the game, and supposed to be able to grow as our rosters have grown, but we basically now have too many teams for the amount of slots we have to place. 7 teams is just not enough, should be 7 teams if under 5mil gp, 8 teams under 6mil, 9 teams under 7mil, and 10 teams above, or something along those lines. Would allow divisions to be broken down or at least prevent cheesy 4.5mil gp accounts from taking 1st place in d1... This is a change that needs to happen

Even under 5m GP, placing 7 teams really doesn't force me to dig deep into my roster like I used to at lower GP.

"thedrjojo;d-237092" wrote:So, @CG_Doja_Fett maybe you can get us some answers/insight into this.Especially now that there are 4 GL, people with 9mil gp, and the ilk, can we see changes to the gac map, particularly, adding 2-3 more defensive teams? This game mode is many of our favorite mode in the game, and supposed to be able to grow as our rosters have grown, but we basically now have too many teams for the amount of slots we have to place. 7 teams is just not enough, should be 7 teams if under 5mil gp, 8 teams under 6mil, 9 teams under 7mil, and 10 teams above, or something along those lines. Would allow divisions to be broken down or at least prevent cheesy 4.5mil gp accounts from taking 1st place in d1... This is a change that needs to happenThis is interesting. You've been heard and I'll poke around. Unfortunately (and obviously) no promises as to the outcome, but I think this is worth surfacing to the powers that be.

While you are at it, please give the same thought to additional TW zones and or teams in each zone, potentially only for guilds of a certain size. We had 35 teams in each zone years ago, which was fun, even though I realize there was a lot of crying over it. TW maps are stale, and 75% of rosters of bigger accounts go unused in TWs. And those are the ones spending on this game and keeping it going.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2181926" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2181921" wrote:Though it's not like we care about the logistics of making new divisions, this is rather a dev. sided problem where the new highest division might end up having too few people. But the highest GP guys already have a limited pool of candidates, do they not?The Full Top 80 R7 guys have a limited pool, but its a GROWING limited pool. Think of that GP top as the bottom of a mountain, and we're dense fluid dribbling towards it.

"YetiYeti;c-2181934" wrote:"Eleslalegenda;c-2181932" wrote:L"MaruMaru;c-2181930" wrote:"Rath_Tarr;c-2181926" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2181921" wrote:Though it's not like we care about the logistics of making new divisions, this is rather a dev. sided problem where the new highest division might end up having too few people. But the highest GP guys already have a limited pool of candidates, do they not?Probably since all their top 80ies are perfectly maxed. But there's also few people that exist beyond some gp regardless of what mm does with it. So even if 9.2m gp exists right now, cg can't put a new division starting from (let's say) 8m currently.According to swogh.gg there's just under 200 players over 8 million gpWhile that could be higher, I doubt anyway at that level isn't using that site. Not sure what they would consider to be a sufficient pool, but I'd think a 7 to 7.5 million starting point would probably give them enough players. Even splitting Div 1 into two divisions at 6m+ in the "new Div 1" would be two big divisions in both regardsI know there's different "research assignments" going to to determine total player population participation in gac, but further review shows 643 players over 7.5 million so probably too small of a pool.So maybe not as big as you'd think, but I do think they should add another division. You'd definitely see a lot of intra-guild match ups in the top division. Would be fun.

GAC number of defensive team problem

34 Replies

Rath_Tarr0
5 years ago
Even under 5m GP, placing 7 teams really doesn't force me to dig deep into my roster like I used to at lower GP.
SWGoYeti
5 years ago
"thedrjojo;d-237092" wrote:
So, @CG_Doja_Fett maybe you can get us some answers/insight into this.

Especially now that there are 4 GL, people with 9mil gp, and the ilk, can we see changes to the gac map, particularly, adding 2-3 more defensive teams? This game mode is many of our favorite mode in the game, and supposed to be able to grow as our rosters have grown, but we basically now have too many teams for the amount of slots we have to place. 7 teams is just not enough, should be 7 teams if under 5mil gp, 8 teams under 6mil, 9 teams under 7mil, and 10 teams above, or something along those lines. Would allow divisions to be broken down or at least prevent cheesy 4.5mil gp accounts from taking 1st place in d1... This is a change that needs to happen

4.5m to 5.5m, 5.5m to 6.5m, 6.5m+ should all be divisions

At the very least, 4.5m to 6m, and 6m+
CampCosmos
New Spectator
5 years ago
Just got to Div 3, can't wait to get to Div 1, but thought 8 teams were required on defense in D1-2. Is this no longer accurate? (https://wiki.swgoh.help/wiki/Grand_Arena_Championships#Divisions)
BobcatSkywalker
5 years ago
"CampCosmos;c-2181868" wrote:
Just got to Div 3, can't wait to get to Div 1, but thought 8 teams were required on defense in D1-2. Is this no longer accurate? (https://wiki.swgoh.help/wiki/Grand_Arena_Championships#Divisions)

One of the 8 is ships, so only 7 teams of characters.

They added more ships so its 7 +2 ships for 9 now at div 2 and 1
CG_Doja_Fett
5 years ago
"thedrjojo;d-237092" wrote:
So, @CG_Doja_Fett maybe you can get us some answers/insight into this.

Especially now that there are 4 GL, people with 9mil gp, and the ilk, can we see changes to the gac map, particularly, adding 2-3 more defensive teams? This game mode is many of our favorite mode in the game, and supposed to be able to grow as our rosters have grown, but we basically now have too many teams for the amount of slots we have to place. 7 teams is just not enough, should be 7 teams if under 5mil gp, 8 teams under 6mil, 9 teams under 7mil, and 10 teams above, or something along those lines. Would allow divisions to be broken down or at least prevent cheesy 4.5mil gp accounts from taking 1st place in d1... This is a change that needs to happen

This is interesting. You've been heard and I'll poke around. Unfortunately (and obviously) no promises as to the outcome, but I think this is worth surfacing to the powers that be.
NotRealUltra
Legend
5 years ago
"MaruMaru;c-2181916" wrote:
"CG_Doja_Fett;c-2181911" wrote:
"thedrjojo;d-237092" wrote:
So, @CG_Doja_Fett maybe you can get us some answers/insight into this.

Especially now that there are 4 GL, people with 9mil gp, and the ilk, can we see changes to the gac map, particularly, adding 2-3 more defensive teams? This game mode is many of our favorite mode in the game, and supposed to be able to grow as our rosters have grown, but we basically now have too many teams for the amount of slots we have to place. 7 teams is just not enough, should be 7 teams if under 5mil gp, 8 teams under 6mil, 9 teams under 7mil, and 10 teams above, or something along those lines. Would allow divisions to be broken down or at least prevent cheesy 4.5mil gp accounts from taking 1st place in d1... This is a change that needs to happen

This is interesting. You've been heard and I'll poke around. Unfortunately (and obviously) no promises as to the outcome, but I think this is worth surfacing to the powers that be.

It's long standing, you can find various topics about this. The previous response we got from CG was that they were waiting for enough population. So even that got documented:

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/235293/gac-division-populations#latest

Yeah i was looking for that thread too, after doja's comment in here

please have a look there, it shows how imbalanced Division 1 currently is, and why there is a need for more divisions for higher GP
SmoothCatch19
5 years ago
While you are at it, please give the same thought to additional TW zones and or teams in each zone, potentially only for guilds of a certain size. We had 35 teams in each zone years ago, which was fun, even though I realize there was a lot of crying over it. TW maps are stale, and 75% of rosters of bigger accounts go unused in TWs. And those are the ones spending on this game and keeping it going.
thedrjojo
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"CG_Doja_Fett;c-2181911" wrote:
"thedrjojo;d-237092" wrote:
So, @CG_Doja_Fett maybe you can get us some answers/insight into this.

Especially now that there are 4 GL, people with 9mil gp, and the ilk, can we see changes to the gac map, particularly, adding 2-3 more defensive teams? This game mode is many of our favorite mode in the game, and supposed to be able to grow as our rosters have grown, but we basically now have too many teams for the amount of slots we have to place. 7 teams is just not enough, should be 7 teams if under 5mil gp, 8 teams under 6mil, 9 teams under 7mil, and 10 teams above, or something along those lines. Would allow divisions to be broken down or at least prevent cheesy 4.5mil gp accounts from taking 1st place in d1... This is a change that needs to happen

This is interesting. You've been heard and I'll poke around. Unfortunately (and obviously) no promises as to the outcome, but I think this is worth surfacing to the powers that be.

Thanks. As others have said, this isn't a new issue or idea, but I figured, especially as we have the 4 gl now and ending a season soon, it could be rehashed.
Rath_Tarr0
5 years ago
"MaruMaru;c-2181921" wrote:
Though it's not like we care about the logistics of making new divisions, this is rather a dev. sided problem where the new highest division might end up having too few people.

But the highest GP guys already have a limited pool of candidates, do they not?
SWGoYeti
5 years ago
"Rath_Tarr;c-2181926" wrote:
"MaruMaru;c-2181921" wrote:
Though it's not like we care about the logistics of making new divisions, this is rather a dev. sided problem where the new highest division might end up having too few people.

But the highest GP guys already have a limited pool of candidates, do they not?

The Full Top 80 R7 guys have a limited pool, but its a GROWING limited pool. Think of that GP top as the bottom of a mountain, and we're dense fluid dribbling towards it.