Grand inquisitor event

"MasterSeedy;c-2398070" wrote:

I think this event would be vastly improved just by GI having normal cooldowns, rather than allowed to just use that healing special that ability blocks your while team whenever he wants. He can lock you into doing just basics permanently, taking away player agency completely (emphasis mine).

Gods, this. What a pointless waste.

You get locked into basics only but you also can't auto until you have some toons come out of ability block. Putting that one single ability on a cooldown would have removed a bunch of RNG from the event.

@Bladegunner

It's not as bad as people make out. A little frustrating but actually requires some thought modding and tactics. I didn't feel rng was majorly impactful

Spoken like someone who didn't get GrandInq use is heal/AoE ability block 5 times in a row. FIVE TIMES. Before you declare that RNG wasn't a factor because you got through just fine, stop to consider that maybe you got good RNG? Maybe? Think about the mechanics a bit, maybe? I don't mean this in the narcissistic way, but just in the literal way: it's self-centred to believe that your experience is the average experience. It's not that weird to be in the top10% for easy RNG and it's not that weird to be in the bottom 10%, but there's a vastly different experience for those who were in the one rather than the other.

When there are no cooldowns on the AoE AbilityBlock + Heal, we should at least have the Auto option so that we can burn through the turns where we aren't allowed to make any decisions.

Oy.

Anyway, I got through without too much trouble (Ezra required 3 or 4 attempts and then Fulcrum required 2 attempts, remodding then 2 more attempts), and I did not use a guide, and I used my own judgement for how to mod the toons, and that's most of what I want from these events -- to play it myself.

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For all of the people saying, "Just use a guide" please remember that for some of us the fun is in actually playing the game, not being Ahnald's button-monkey.

That said, when I hit Fulcrum my random survivability-based mods I have on them as everyday mods weren't good enough and remodding was absolutely necessary. I was never going to get through Fulcrum with my original mods.

But here's the thing, and CG I hope you're listening:

If you need to use anything better than average 5-dot mods at +75-80 speed for the set then either:

1) the event is not reasonably accomplishable at all at the given relic levels, in which case this is your fault and you need to adjust the difficulty of your event,

OR

2) the event is reasonably accomplishable at the given relic levels, but you're requiring most players to remod because it is only reasonably accomplishable at that relic level with excellent mods.

And that second one **sounds** fine, in theory. Except

1) anyone who has 5xr5 Inqs has those mods somewhere, therefore
2) you're not stopping anyone who gets the r5 Inqs from finishing the event, therefore
3) what you're really requiring is not that someone work on developing their mod collection before they're allowed the Grand Inq. What you're really requiring is
3a) a credit tax, plus
3b) paperwork

So. Let's think about this. Is the credit tax necessary for game balance? I ultimately spent 240k credits on restoring my original mods, so that means I might have spent as much as 480k credits total during the process.

If Grand Inq unlocked at 6 stars, we would be required to pay 1M gp to take him to 7 stars. It would be literally double the tax, and I still would rather pay that to escape the paperwork of moving mods around.

In other words, if game balance absolutely requires siphoning a few hundred thousand credits away from a player before they can use GransInq, there are ways to do that without forcing us to do the paperwork of pushing mods around.

Remodding is literally the least fun thing to do in this game. Requiring remodding for reasonable chance of success at these events kills fun to no in-game purpose. You should ALWAYS avoid requiring remodding in these one-time unlock events, and if you find you simply have to tax some credits, find another way to do it (like have the toon unlocked at fewer stars, then have us pay for each star upgrade, then give us bonus credits after 7-starring the event equal to just enough that the amount we paid for star upgrades minus the amount we gained in bonus credits exactly equals the amount of credit tax you feel game balance requires. Easy peasy lemon squeezy, no busywork required.

Yes, I realize that ultimately I'm asking for these events to be made easier, but the hard part is supposed to be relic'ing the required characters. If you don't want us to have the characters at the minimum relic level required, just require a higher relic level. Don't require remodding. It's silly. We all have the mods, it's just that Inqs aren't worth GL level mods on an everyday basis and doing this event isn't worth the busywork of remodding.

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Please also recognize that I'm not talking about events other than one-shot unlock events. Having us remod for raids or TB missions is qualitatively different. As much as I hate remodding, I'm not saying that those things should be designed with mediocre mods in mind.

The amount of time spent writing this post vs watching a video/Reddit guide……

Or I just value my time….

"Shadowscream;c-2398083" wrote:
Or I just value my time….

…that you spend on a forum about a pointless game you also spend valuable time playing. I’m not sure it’s a good idea for any of us here to go this route.

Back on topic: some of the fights were very frustrating, but the idea of ‘chasing jedis’ was great and barring the frustration of some fights, it was quite interesting and still better than the last tier of gas rng wise. Malak stays my favorite event so far, even if it was nail-biting and also sometimes frustrating.

Malak was excellent. It's hard for me to remember all the different unlock events as they happened. I know CLS was frustrating on one of the phases, but after I got through it I realized that I hadn't dropped an Omega on Farmboy that would have helped a ton -- and that event was fantastic as well, absent my one out-of-play mistake. The BB-8 event was pretty cool, I remember, but probably not as good as CLS or Malak.

"MasterSeedy;c-2398082" wrote:

The amount of time spent writing this post vs watching a video/Reddit guide……

If you watch a guide, you're not playing the game, you're a line worker pushing the buttons your boss tells you to. There are times when I will watch a guide, but I vastly prefer not to.

I feel like that's a little too absolute of a statement. I watch guides to get an idea of what strategy might work. Sometimes I follow them to the letter, if I'm frustrated enough - other times I just need an idea of a general strategy and fill in the details on my own - but every time, it's me playing through the event. I feel like this is akin to saying, "If someone taught you how to ride a bicycle, you're not riding it yourself - you're just being their pedal monkey." Now, when I stream the KAM mission - THEN I'm being someone's button monkey. But that doesn't bother me either, and I'm always very grateful for the assist. :smile:

I'm all for people figuring things out on their own, and I respect your position on that, but I gotta hard disagree on your position about watching a guide = not playing the game.

"BubbaFett;c-2430218" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2430175" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-2398082" wrote:

The amount of time spent writing this post vs watching a video/Reddit guide……

If you watch a guide, you're not playing the game, you're a line worker pushing the buttons your boss tells you to. There are times when I will watch a guide, but I vastly prefer not to.

I feel like that's a little too absolute of a statement. I watch guides to get an idea of what strategy might work. Sometimes I follow them to the letter, if I'm frustrated enough - other times I just need an idea of a general strategy and fill in the details on my own - but every time, it's me playing through the event. I feel like this is akin to saying, "If someone taught you how to ride a bicycle, you're not riding it yourself - you're just being their pedal monkey." Now, when I stream the KAM mission - THEN I'm being someone's button monkey. But that doesn't bother me either, and I'm always very grateful for the assist. :smile:

I'm all for people figuring things out on their own, and I respect your position on that, but I gotta hard disagree on your position about watching a guide = not playing the game.

Fully agree.... In fact, I remember when this forum used to be more about strategizing and less about complaining about the difficulty of every single event / galactic challenge / raid...

Mind you, I also remember when we didn't even know when legendary characters were coming back and folks just did their best to be ready asap vs complaining it was a week late, so there is that ....

There's a simple way for you not to have to deal with that anymore.

Regarding mods… remodding your toons for one really difficult event can literally take hours. Had to spend hours swapping mods around for both Malak and GAS events, it’s by far the least enjoyable part of this game for me, and probably why a lot of people engage with mods as little as possible. The new filtering options are great but overall the experience is trash.

Full roster mod snapshot and unit-to-unit mod swapping features when?

"KDC99X;c-2430346" wrote:

Full roster mod snapshot and unit-to-unit mod swapping features when?

This, please.

So much that.

I am lucky to have HotUtils, but not everyone does.

It's not impossible, but it's really annoying. For me, the annoying thing was the GI fight first each time. It seemed entirely up to luck if you would be allowed to get past him with the squad in good enough shape.

Most of the jedi I could figure out on the fly how to get past them. Only had to improve mods for fulcrim, just needed to be a bit faster to be able to get enough attacks in.

I think this event would be vastly improved just by GI having normal cooldowns, rather than allowed to just use that healing special that ability blocks your while team whenever he wants. He can lock you into doing just basics permanently, taking away player agency completely.

This faction did not need another reason for players to dislike it.