Hoard energy for May the fourth be with you

@SidVicious444 This is 100% a BAD idea. You will be losing more in the long run due to the loss of any energy gained through regular recharging. In a normal day you can earn 288 fleet, regular and mod energy, and 120 cantina energy just by using it before you hit the caps. The bonus daily energy is 135 regular, 45 cantina, 45 fleet and 45 mod. You're losing out in the long run so please don't do this.

This is not to mention that in order to hit all of your daily bonuses you will probably want to farm signal data from cantina, which will cost 48/day minimum to get three battles which is more than the 45 bonus earned. If you choose not to do the dailies then you can mitigate that, but then you're losing out in other ways including daily kyros and crystals.

I usually only hoard for a couple of days in advance sometimes just one day - any more than that and you're not actually gaining any benefit.

Let's look at the math. To make this easier, let's just look at regular energy. Say you are at 144 right now. You get three refreshes a day at 45 each. May 4 is in 20 days. 3x45x20=2700 + 144 = 2844. So you can run through all this energy in one go on the 4th. Say you are farming a hard node character. Average drop rate is 1/3. Let's look at something on the lowest energy. 2844/12= 237 attempts/3 = 79 shards x2 = 158 during double drops.

Now, normal regeneration nets you 10 per hour, or 240 a day plus 3x45 for a total of 375. So over the next 20 days, that is 7,500 normal energy. 7500/12 = 625 attempts/3 = 208 shards or 50 more than hoarding. This doesn't even account for everything else you miss out on by not doing your dailies and such.

This is also to say nothing of the fact that energy caps unless you buy the packs.

You only want to hoard for double drops for a max of two days for Ship/Mod/Cantina or 2-5 Days for regular energy. I made some charts below showing the effectiveness of different strategies.

"D0C70RF4U57;c-2417308" wrote:
You only want to hoard for double drops for a max of two days for Ship/Mod/Cantina or 2-5 Days for regular energy. I made some charts below showing the effectiveness of different strategies.

Thank you for this^^

I'm convinced and will continue playing normally.
The cantina hoarding looks promising. I will do that starting 1 may.
I will hoard crystals instead and do 3 refreshes on energy, cantina and mod energy for the duration of the double drop event.
Thank you.

"Starslayer;c-2417314" wrote:

"crzydroid;c-2417100" wrote:
This is also to say nothing of the fact that energy caps unless you buy the packs.

Isn’t there an exception for bonus energy, for the sake of argument ?

It was my understanding that even bonus energy won't take you past the 1099 or whatever it is, and that the energy packs were the only way to get around it. But I could be wrong.

"Hunter4721;c-2417486" wrote:
Hoarding energy’s a good idea, you’re just starting too early. I’m sure someone smarter than me can do the maths, but I’d wager that it’d be more worth starting at the end of the month

I used some lightweight math: if i just hoard during 1 day i lose 240 free regen energy. 3 refresh will grant me 360 energy that will be worth 720 on may 4th, so i ‘gain’ 360 energy by hoarding, for a net gain of 360-240=120 energy per day of hoarding. So you can hoard every energy until you hit energy cap, which should be done in about 3 days. I’ll still do the bare minimum for dailies, so the gain will be a little less.
Now, this light gain might not be worth the trouble and you could just wait until the end of the day on may 3rd to refresh your energy and be done with it (even refreshing an extra 3 times for 100 energy, as it will be like doing an extra 3x50 refresh, which is still the most efficient way to spend your crystals).
Also, if you take a free daily chest in the web store, you might hit cap sooner, making it less efficient to hoard for 3 whole days.

"Hunter4721;c-2417486" wrote:
Hoarding energy’s a good idea, you’re just starting too early. I’m sure someone smarter than me can do the maths, but I’d wager that it’d be more worth starting at the end of the month

I happen to have done the math. See pictures from a few posts up. Your intuition of starting to hoard at the end of the month is pretty close.

"Starslayer;c-2417493" wrote:

I used some lightweight math: if i just hoard during 1 day i lose 240 free regen energy. 3 refresh will grant me 360 energy that will be worth 720 on may 4th, so i ‘gain’ 360 energy by hoarding, for a net gain of 360-240=120 energy per day of hoarding. So you can hoard every energy until you hit energy cap, which should be done in about 3 days. I’ll still do the bare minimum for dailies, so the gain will be a little less.
Now, this light gain might not be worth the trouble and you could just wait until the end of the day on may 3rd to refresh your energy and be done with it (even refreshing an extra 3 times for 100 energy, as it will be like doing an extra 3x50 refresh, which is still the most efficient way to spend your crystals).
Also, if you take a free daily chest in the web store, you might hit cap sooner, making it less efficient to hoard for 3 whole days.

You forgot the bonus energy 3x times a day which will be worth double as well. If you are collecting that you are only -105 energy each day. I always assumed it wasn't really worth the trouble until I made the charts but it certainly is worth saving up energy for at least a couple of days.

"crzydroid;c-2417405" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2417314" wrote:

"crzydroid;c-2417100" wrote:
This is also to say nothing of the fact that energy caps unless you buy the packs.

Isn’t there an exception for bonus energy, for the sake of argument ?

It was my understanding that even bonus energy won't take you past the 1099 or whatever it is, and that the energy packs were the only way to get around it. But I could be wrong.

I thought bonus energy and packs, including free web store pack, go over the 2000 cap but you are unable to purchase energy the normal way.

"crzydroid;c-2417405" wrote:

"Starslayer;c-2417314" wrote:

"crzydroid;c-2417100" wrote:
This is also to say nothing of the fact that energy caps unless you buy the packs.

Isn’t there an exception for bonus energy, for the sake of argument ?

It was my understanding that even bonus energy won't take you past the 1099 or whatever it is, and that the energy packs were the only way to get around it. But I could be wrong.

Unless it's changed you should be able to go past the 1099 with bonus energy. I started an al account and got around 6000 normal energy and 2000 cantina before going into squad arena