Since I imagine a lot of people only look here and not in the bug forum thought it was important to flag this here:https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/90495/tfp-steaing-tm#latestHiya!It appears the bug you've mentioned is with Vaders ZETA leader ability, and *not* with the TIE Fighter Pilot. Two bugs have been flagged regarding this, and- barring any wacky unforeseen shenanigans- should be addressed in our upcoming update.I'm fine with them fixing "bugs" but if they do so need to fix other issues with the Zeta, namely that some dmg doesn't trigger a check, most importantly Emperors end of turn unique dmg to rebels and jedi never removes tm (unless they are shocked).Also, depending on how much this changes things assume we should and will get a refund just like what happened for the Barris "fix".

That is true, Emperor's Crackling Doom is failing to remove TM to Jedi and Rebels, this must be fixed.

"ElleMadara;892543" wrote:That is true, Emperor's Crackling Doom is failing to remove TM to Jedi and Rebels, this must be fixed.Crackling Doom should not remove TM. This is WAI.

"CaptainRex;892563" wrote:"ElleMadara;892543" wrote:That is true, Emperor's Crackling Doom is failing to remove TM to Jedi and Rebels, this must be fixed.Crackling Doom should not remove TM. This is WAI. How so?Crackling Doom: At the end of each of his turns, Palpatine deals Special damage to all Shocked enemies and then deals Special damage to all Jedi and Rebel enemies. This damage can't defeat enemies.Vader Lead: Empire and Sith allies gain 30% Offense and have a 50% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter when they damage an enemy. This Turn Meter removal can't be Resisted. While Darth Vader is alive, enemies immediately regain Damage Over Time for 2 turns whenever Damage Over Time expires on them.Crackling Doom is clearly Palpatine dealing damage. Vader is clearly when Empire and Sith allies deal dmg.

IMO, Vader's zeta should exclude crackling doom, as his leader is already extremely good without that extra TM removal. Only the devs can answer whether this is truly working as intended, but OP is right that it is certainly not working as described.

I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...

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ElleMadara
8 years ago
That is true, Emperor's Crackling Doom is failing to remove TM to Jedi and Rebels, this must be fixed.
ARC-CaptainRex
8 years ago
"ElleMadara;892543" wrote:
That is true, Emperor's Crackling Doom is failing to remove TM to Jedi and Rebels, this must be fixed.

Crackling Doom should not remove TM. This is WAI.
KParks05
8 years ago
"CaptainRex;892563" wrote:
"ElleMadara;892543" wrote:
That is true, Emperor's Crackling Doom is failing to remove TM to Jedi and Rebels, this must be fixed.

Crackling Doom should not remove TM. This is WAI.

How so?

Crackling Doom: At the end of each of his turns, Palpatine deals Special damage to all Shocked enemies and then deals Special damage to all Jedi and Rebel enemies. This damage can't defeat enemies.

Vader Lead: Empire and Sith allies gain 30% Offense and have a 50% chance to remove 20% Turn Meter when they damage an enemy. This Turn Meter removal can't be Resisted. While Darth Vader is alive, enemies immediately regain Damage Over Time for 2 turns whenever Damage Over Time expires on them.

Crackling Doom is clearly Palpatine dealing damage. Vader is clearly when Empire and Sith allies deal dmg.
FFObs0lete
8 years ago
IMO, Vader's zeta should exclude crackling doom, as his leader is already extremely good without that extra TM removal. Only the devs can answer whether this is truly working as intended, but OP is right that it is certainly not working as described.
Acrofales
8 years ago
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.

That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...
superEwokCat
8 years ago
"Obs0lete;892577" wrote:
IMO, Vader's zeta should exclude crackling doom, as his leader is already extremely good without that extra TM removal. Only the devs can answer whether this is truly working as intended, but OP is right that it is certainly not working as described.

Just like the Barris/Sthan unique will stunned.
WAI but not WAD (described)
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.

That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...

Crackling doom can trigger biggs if it crits, it's just not tagged as Empire_Damage in game. If it can trigger him to on a crit, it should be allowed to remove TM imo. Change one of the two.
FFObs0lete
8 years ago
"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.

That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...

With that in mind, it sounds like there could be issues with coding crackling doom and how it affects other mechanics. This might get fixed right after stealth/Teebo ;)
Mullato616
8 years ago
If it removed TM from Jedi after every single turn that would be dumb as hell.
NyKynoe
8 years ago
Due to the long farm time and drop rates for zeta, ANY changes to a zeta should also give a full refund of the zeta and related materials.

If after the change the person wants to put it back, then that's thier choice. But let's avoid the whole bait and switch. IMO

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