Is CG going to fix the KAM mission in time for LS Geo? We know they can't fix it mid-TB, as they've asserted in the past they can't do such things. I went and checked the dev tracker and it's still being investigated. Only a few days left and we still don't have any word on a fix, just CG's promise at the end of the last TB they'd have it fixed for this one. And of course no mention, ever, of any compensation for them breaking the mission in the first place by their own actions. It'd be nice if we customers stopped being punished because of developer screwups. Or, if we're going to be hindered by bugs since they are quite plentiful (and in some instances never seem to get fixed), we could get compensated for those bugs interfering in our gameplay experience.

From Doja earlier on Discord:"Also, the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)."Looks like if they can't get it fixed before the scheduled start of TB they might just delay it and probably run TW instead

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See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questionsHe'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about itRather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed insteadI would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

"Kyno;c-2275585" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questionsHe'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about itRather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed insteadI would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”. Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy."Hia Holotable heroes, LSGTB is coming up soon and the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)or if any compensation will be grantedI added the underlined parts. If he would have posted that yesterday morning, this thread would not exist and all the forums users would be better informed. As I said above, this would not have taken any time, doesn't promise anything and lets everyone know the current status. Sometimes information needs to be rehashed, especially when its something that's important as KAM (who may or may not be an upcoming GL requirement) and besides, that info is 3 weeks old.

Is KAM mission getting fixed before LS Geo?

Persimius
Seasoned Scout
4 years ago
They said they would, so I guess they will? Update day is tomorrow, and p3 isn't for a few days yet. Plenty of time.
InyakSolomon88
4 years ago
"StarSon;c-2275470" wrote:
They said they would, so I guess they will? Update day is tomorrow, and p3 isn't for a few days yet. Plenty of time.

they've got lots of stuff listed as ready for release though. Not the KAM mission. And they've said many times in the past that they can't change a mode once it's live (Conquest canceled bc of JKL bugs, LS Geo bugs that they forced us to play through bc they couldn't fix them when LS Geo went live as such examples).
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
4 years ago
"InyakSolomon88;c-2275473" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2275470" wrote:
They said they would, so I guess they will? Update day is tomorrow, and p3 isn't for a few days yet. Plenty of time.

they've got lots of stuff listed as ready for release though. Not the KAM mission. And they've said many times in the past that they can't change a mode once it's live (Conquest canceled bc of JKL bugs, LS Geo bugs that they forced us to play through bc they couldn't fix them when LS Geo went live as such examples).

Well, my point stands. Why would you ask this question the day before they're probably going to fix it? Asking now will simply get you what I answered with: they said it would be fixed, and until they miss the deadline there is no reason to suspect otherwise.

Honestly that dev tracker is pretty useless, and "ready to release" doesn't actually mean much of anything.
InyakSolomon88
4 years ago
"FerociousPanda;c-2275516" wrote:
From Doja earlier on Discord:

"Also, the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)."

Looks like if they can't get it fixed before the scheduled start of TB they might just delay it and probably run TW instead

That's depressing, but thanks for the info!!!
NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:
See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questions

He'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about it

Rather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed instead
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:
See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questions

He'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about it

Rather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed instead

I would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275613" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275585" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:
See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questions

He'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about it

Rather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed instead

I would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy.

"Hia Holotable heroes, LSGTB is coming up soon and the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)or if any compensation will be granted

I added the underlined parts. If he would have posted that yesterday morning, this thread would not exist and all the forums users would be better informed. As I said above, this would not have taken any time, doesn't promise anything and lets everyone know the current status. Sometimes information needs to be rehashed, especially when its something that's important as KAM (who may or may not be an upcoming GL requirement) and besides, that info is 3 weeks old.

The question was, will it be fixed before the event launches. Please underline the part where that is expressly answered, so that this thread would not need to exist.

If it's not promising anything, then no one is better informed than , it's under investigation. All he is saying is it's under investigation in a longer way.

I agree that it can help to rehash information, but that doesnt mean more information was added or that it is helpful in any way towards that actual problem.
Persimius
Seasoned Scout
4 years ago
"FerociousPanda;c-2275657" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275625" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275613" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275585" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:
See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questions

He'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about it

Rather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed instead

I would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy.

"Hia Holotable heroes, LSGTB is coming up soon and the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)or if any compensation will be granted

I added the underlined parts. If he would have posted that yesterday morning, this thread would not exist and all the forums users would be better informed. As I said above, this would not have taken any time, doesn't promise anything and lets everyone know the current status. Sometimes information needs to be rehashed, especially when its something that's important as KAM (who may or may not be an upcoming GL requirement) and besides, that info is 3 weeks old.

The question was, will it be fixed before the event launches. Please underline the part where that is expressly answered, so that this thread would not need to exist.

If it's not promising anything, then no one is better informed than , it's under investigation. All he is saying is it's under investigation in a longer way.

I agree that it can help to rehash information, but that doesnt mean more information was added or that it is helpful in any way towards that actual problem.

I don’t want to speak on behalf of Inyak, but it’s pretty clear from the framing of the OP that they see the start of The next LS TB as a “deadline” for a fix coming in time, because CG has said time and time again that they don’t want to do fixes in the middle of these events. If they don’t fix it before the start of TB, then players would have to do the KAM mission while the bug still persists, which is why Inyak made this thread. Doja’s message doesn’t give a concrete y/n answer but does open the door to the possibility that TB gets rescheduled so they can get the fix in before it runs, which we did not know was a possibility until he said so. So while Doja couldn’t explicitly answer the question, he gave us more information to alleviate some worries that people are having, and I doubt this thread would have been made had he posted something like this on the forum, because then we would just wait for him to come back with more information. If you can’t do simple reading in between the lines and insist on taking everything literally, then I don’t know what else to say

I just want to point out that I don't believe CG considers this a bug. The initial response was that it was WAI, and indeed it does not state that it grants you protection (even though that's how gaining max protection/hp works everywhere else). Based on how they've framed their communication, I think they believe it to be currently correct, and are simply putting the bug back in because they don't want to make the hardest content in the game any harder.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
He said he tried to get a lost out yesterday here, but didnt get it out and we should expect a post today. It still will not answer this question, unless something happened overnight.
NyKynoe
4 years ago
"FerociousPanda;c-2275657" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275625" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275613" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2275585" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275557" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2275555" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2275553" wrote:
See….this is what I’m talking about. Why wasn’t that posted here on the office forums? Communication is not hard. If it wasn’t for Panda, most of us wouldn’t know that great bit of info.

Because what Doja posted in that server is not concrete and still ends up giving us more questions

He'll write an official post on this subject in the forums soon, I think he's trying to confirm if the schedule will be shifted around or not, before announcing about it

Rather than have an initial post saying we might shift things around and then another saying they fixed it and no longer delaying TB, in my opinion its better to see if they are able to fix it without delaying TB and announcing that its now fixed instead

I would welcome more posts from him saying that they are looking into things that matter to the community on a much more frequent basis. Posting a quick initial post wouldn’t take hardly anytime, doesn’t promise anything and let’s us know that they are indeed looking into it, officially…not to mention it would totally eliminate a need for a thread like this. He could then update us, by updating the post, on what they came up with after it’s finalized. To quote Urz “ It’s eeeasy”.

Its doesnt answer this thread, so it would make no difference to this thread existing. It's is a rehash of similar information posted. This question could still appear as there is no answer to it at this moment. It's not hard to see that, so it also is eeeasy.

"Hia Holotable heroes, LSGTB is coming up soon and the Stand Your Ground bug is still being investigated and turns out there needs to be a client update before that can get fixed. So, we're working on a solution to that as well. Nothing is confirmed, but we may finagle the schedule a bit to get the fix in and run the same amount of events as we normally would during the upcoming period, just with a slightly different cadence. I will be sure to follow up and provide messaging surrounding the changes (if things do in fact get shuffled)or if any compensation will be granted

I added the underlined parts. If he would have posted that yesterday morning, this thread would not exist and all the forums users would be better informed. As I said above, this would not have taken any time, doesn't promise anything and lets everyone know the current status. Sometimes information needs to be rehashed, especially when its something that's important as KAM (who may or may not be an upcoming GL requirement) and besides, that info is 3 weeks old.

The question was, will it be fixed before the event launches. Please underline the part where that is expressly answered, so that this thread would not need to exist.

If it's not promising anything, then no one is better informed than , it's under investigation. All he is saying is it's under investigation in a longer way.

I agree that it can help to rehash information, but that doesnt mean more information was added or that it is helpful in any way towards that actual problem.

I don’t want to speak on behalf of Inyak, but it’s pretty clear from the framing of the OP that they see the start of The next LS TB as a “deadline” for a fix coming in time, because CG has said time and time again that they don’t want to do fixes in the middle of these events. If they don’t fix it before the start of TB, then players would have to do the KAM mission while the bug still persists, which is why Inyak made this thread. Doja’s message doesn’t give a concrete y/n answer but does open the door to the possibility that TB gets rescheduled so they can get the fix in before it runs, which we did not know was a possibility until he said so. So while Doja couldn’t explicitly answer the question, he gave us more information to alleviate some worries that people are having, and I doubt this thread would have been made had he posted something like this on the forum, because then we would just wait for him to come back with more information. If you can’t do simple reading in between the lines and insist on taking everything literally, then I don’t know what else to say

He said it's possible, not that they are going to do it, anything is possible. It's also possible that they leave it this way and run the TB as scheduled. It solves/resolves nothing. The question is still valid, and any possibility of changing the schedule doesnt make the start time of LSTB any less of a deadline.

Let's wait and see what actually happens.