As a game to an incoming player it has a lot to do. The beef comes from the older accounts. I don't believe anyone complaining is still working on Traya. Perhaps the players, including myself, with complaints about the lack of new content and communication should simply move on?

Unfortunately no one is going to come here on a random day trying to convince you to stay here. They have said they are working on a way to produce content quicker. I guess that statement is not enough for you.But trying to press like this doesn't mean they can make those tools or the content any faster than they are already trying to do.

It's not a passive-aggressive press, @Kyno , but sincerely asking a genuine question on the background of a novel situation. 2020 Smartphone gaming where a large percentage of the player base has had the game with them for 5 years is new territory in terms of human behavior. The time that smartphones have had us behaving this way is a blip in human evolution. In the grand scheme of human behavior, relationships with technology, expectations from a game, seriously it might be the best decision and reasonable 1 for veteran players to move on. Perhaps that gives you enough context to reevaluate the question.

I think CG struggles with a lot of things they probably shouldn't. But I also think the easily convinced army of pitchfork wielding fans of you-know-who gets worked up about the littlest things and expect so much more than they should. The middle ground between the forum people here who defend the company no matter what and the people screaming for blood because one account got banned for violating ToS is the way to go.Should we be wanting more right now? Absolutely. But we're also still in the middle of a pandemic and the programmers of this game live in the middle of one of the biggest impact areas for COVID in the country, so even being able to work from home has likely slowed them down quite a bit.Right now it's the people in the pitchfork crowd that are making dealing with the community of this game unbearable. The forums have merged a huge batch of posts into a "bitching about Arnold" thread and still 95% of new posts are complaining about the same thing. It's toxic right now and do they have some reasonable ideas and complaints about cheating? Sure. But they also need to realize no one at CG really cares what a clickbait youtuber has to say because they are bound by certain rules from EA and because they continue to make loads of money despite the overwhelming negativity from said youtuber for a long, long time now.

They have time to make new puzzles but not time to address lucifers daddy negotiating with cheaters?

I guess we can agree to disagree, but you seem to be expect someone to come on here and convince you to keep playing, or to convince older players to keep playing.We all play this game for our own personal reasons and choices. If you feel the game is not for you, as I'm sure many have done after they picked it up at any point over the last almost 5 years.They have stated parts of the plan they have and are working on the broader post, with RA. Again if that's not enough for you and you dont want to keep on keeping on..... not sure what anyone else can tell you.You are absolutely right that there are many things going on in gaming that are in "uncharted territory" and I'm sure that makes things difficult on both sides of this.I dont think you can speak to the best actions to take for anyone but yourself. Your view on what is going on is how you see it and may not be indicative of the "human nature" for everyone else.

Is the player base demanding too much?

TheRH0MBUS
5 years ago
“Time for older players to move on”

What a horrible concept, when the solution to keep those same devoted players would be is easy. But adding anything needs to be cost effective and a major source of revenue. Players happiness will never be the goal, and they don’t seem to care who leaves. (Unless they pay) It’s frustration mechanics at its finest and it’s pathetic CG can’t keep StarWars fanboys interested in their game.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Zanir;c-2126861" wrote:
CG don't communicate, avoid any subtantive questions in Q&As, negotiate with cheating whales, unevenly enforce TOS and lie about new content, fixing bugs or things they previously said and lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. Oh, and they upload new packs instead of communicating with the playerbase in the current PR trashfire.

But it's the players who are the problem.

Get outta here with that garbage.

Can you go ahead and quote some lies when you are saying that. It's very helpful to know what people are talking about when they say this.

Also you realize they did out these packs today right? They have been in the game data, there was no update today.
7AnimalMother
5 years ago
All I know... is that SWTOR took roughly 9 years to hit the billion dollar revenue mark. Lotro still hasn't hit 1B after almost 13 years. Both of those have had massive amounts of new content released on a regular basis. Heck the entire code base of the 5 year $1 billion SWGOH would be the equivalent of one patch for those games.

Sure those are different game types, but for crying out loud, we as gamers should expect much, much more for our money! A game bringing in 1B in 5 years should be cranking out new, original playable content ALL THE TIME.
Schwartzring
Rising Traveler
5 years ago
"7AnimalMother;c-2126949" wrote:
All I know... is that SWTOR took roughly 9 years to hit the billion dollar revenue mark. Lotro still hasn't hit 1B after almost 13 years. Both of those have had massive amounts of new content released on a regular basis. Heck the entire code base of the 5 year $1 billion SWGOH would be the equivalent of one patch for those games.

Sure those are different game types, but for crying out loud, we as gamers should expect much, much more for our money! A game bringing in 1B in 5 years should be cranking out new, original playable content ALL THE TIME.

I have no idea if this is true or not.
But if it is, wow, why am I still playing this game, LOL.
Basanovbeni
5 years ago
Their idea of Content release speed is literally just once every 3 months, as EA generally demands Revenue reports to be every quarter, so they let you wait 2 months then milk the shit out of you on Month 3/6/9 and 12 respectively.

The Community really isn't demanding that much. New players asked for an F2P friendlier intro, and all they gave was the Hyperdrive Bundle, and literally nothing else.

The reason people are slowing down/Stopping with demands is because CG has made it abundantly clear the more we ask for Red we get Blue instead.
ZanirN7S
Seasoned Traveler
5 years ago
"Kyno;c-2126892" wrote:

Can you go ahead and quote some lies when you are saying that. It's very helpful to know what people are talking about when they say this.

Also you realize they did out these packs today right? They have been in the game data, there was no update today.

Lmao this ain't a debate club, no one's obliged to provide you quotes and if anyone needs proof that CG are lying hacks, they just need to hang around a bit. Whatcha gonna do, ban me if I don't give you links? Ooooh boy.
ZanirN7S
Seasoned Traveler
5 years ago
Kyno is like a flatearther. Endlessly demanding proof, but when the painfully obvious is pointed out to him (for a guy posting all over the site he sure seems like he's been living under a rock) he ignores it or tries to twist it on technicalities, quirks of grammar and Olympic-level mental gymnastics.

I don't even pity you Kyno, you know exactly what you're doing.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Zanir;c-2127962" wrote:
Kyno is like a flatearther. Endlessly demanding proof, but when the painfully obvious is pointed out to him (for a guy posting all over the site he sure seems like he's been living under a rock) he ignores it or tries to twist it on technicalities, quirks of grammar and Olympic-level mental gymnastics.

I don't even pity you Kyno, you know exactly what you're doing.

I see people post things and say they are lies when they are not.

The GLs is a good example. They literally said, this is not final and it is subject to change, then when they change it..... they lied, that's not how that works. I am always willing to discuss and see reason, but it's hard when baseless claims are made.

"MemeMaster;c-2127837" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2126892" wrote:
"Zanir;c-2126861" wrote:
CG don't communicate, avoid any subtantive questions in Q&As, negotiate with cheating whales, unevenly enforce TOS and lie about new content, fixing bugs or things they previously said and lie and lie and lie and lie and lie. Oh, and they upload new packs instead of communicating with the playerbase in the current PR trashfire.

But it's the players who are the problem.

Get outta here with that garbage.

Can you go ahead and quote some lies when you are saying that. It's very helpful to know what people are talking about when they say this.

Also you realize they did out these packs today right? They have been in the game data, there was no update today.

We are halfway into June and we have had no Road ahead, their supposed "New Project" hasn't even been introduced on a Beta-testing phase, the supposedly PROMISED newcomer-friendlier gameplay hasn't been rolled out at all, and CG's claim they enforce their Terms of Service fairly.

That should serve a sufficient start on your demand for some of CG's lies and procrastinations.

They said they were working on a raid, then they said its paused.....they lied.... again, not the way it works. Things are allowed to change, it's going to happen, but that doesnt mean it's a lie when it does. It also doesnt mean it's a lie if it takes longer or they miss a deadline.

We have X plans, and then they dont hit the mark.....is not a lie.

How does stateing something has not happened without proof, constitute proof that they lied? Are you in the beta program?
Axs4957Sxa5226
5 years ago
We are demanding too little.
Ggdjqjchsabjdj
5 years ago
"Vettes4Fetts;c-2128311" wrote:
We are demanding too little.

I’d say we’re demanding the right amount. CG just can’t produce at this rate.