I've seen many posts saying that there's probably a bug with GW. Lately, the matchmaking has been getting more and more king sofa (rev) bad, I now I'm thinking there's a lot of truth to those posts.Node 3 is almost always easy. It's supposed to be a team below your arena GP, right? Today there's an unbeatable brick wall team on it. This doesn't make any sense. It's like matchmaking goes nuts and picks a team based on your cumulative GP and not just the arena team.Why are we, the players, being ignored by the developers? There's a problem with GW, it needs to be acknowledged and addressed.

Arena teams have nothing to do with GW matchmaking. Neither does GP. Matchmaking is still based on the old power rating called stat power of your 5 highest power toons — disregarding what your arena team is. One difference between GP and stat power is, that zetas don't influence stat power.I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.

"Waqui;c-1701518" wrote:I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.Can't see the forest for the trees.Prior to early October there weren't teams with 1.5-2x your top 5 chars in GP on any single node. If your top 5 were in the 25k range, your hardest battle GP wise would be about 30K. I do know synergy doesn't count. I do know that things like Zetas do not count. But if the abilites don't count for the opponent Galactic War Power Rating (I made that term up to mean WHATEVER score the GW sytem uses to determine your opponents) they sure as heck don't count for yours. I don't know all the Galactic War Power Rating specifics, but i do know that under ZERO circumstances should a 25K GP top 5 account be facing a team with 50K power on any node in a GW. And I had never seen it happen prior to early October.

How is this acceptable:Spoiler (Highlight to read)over 70,000 GP with 3 G10 and 2 G8 against a top 5 of just under 22000 with barely 3 G7 characters??Something is wrong with GW. The sooner people stop worrying about the semantics of the EXACT way it determines opponents and see the bigger picture, hopefully the faster we can get some answers.

"Waqui;c-1701518" wrote:I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.Well, some players are posting that it's based on arena team and some say that it's based on top 5 chars. I've even seen a quote being posted that made it look like devs themselves said it was based on the highest GP arena win. In my case the two scenarios are the same anyways.But in the end, like the above poster said, it doesn't really matter. There's a problem with GW matchmaking system. It needs to be addressed.

"Waqui;c-1701854" wrote:"AOHNH;c-1701814" wrote:"Waqui;c-1701518" wrote:I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.Well, some players are posting that it's based on arena team and some say that it's based on top 5 chars. I've even seen a quote being posted that made it look like devs themselves said it was based on the highest GP arena win. Highest arena win? That was the widely accepted theory back in 2016. What's the date of that quote?Latest I had seen was top 5 of your roster, regardless of if they had been used in a squad together. And by my previous comment of acceptable, I am meaning as in acceptable to a properly functioning GW matchmaking system. Answer: It isn't.Longer answer:Since this phenomenon only recently appeared in the beginning of October, we can deduce that it is indeed some kind of error. Having gone thru probably 1000 GWs over several devices and family accounts who play, to not see it ONE time from the time I got in to GW in April of 2018 til the beginning of October would indeed be one hell of a lucky stretch. I have seen it about every other day since then. Usually in battles that aren't usually hard(like 1-5 or 7, and 8).

Is there a bug with GW matchmaking?

Waquira
6 years ago
Arena teams have nothing to do with GW matchmaking. Neither does GP. Matchmaking is still based on the old power rating called stat power of your 5 highest power toons — disregarding what your arena team is. One difference between GP and stat power is, that zetas don't influence stat power.

I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.
BucMan55
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1701518" wrote:

I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.

Can't see the forest for the trees.

Prior to early October there weren't teams with 1.5-2x your top 5 chars in GP on any single node. If your top 5 were in the 25k range, your hardest battle GP wise would be about 30K. I do know synergy doesn't count. I do know that things like Zetas do not count. But if the abilites don't count for the opponent Galactic War Power Rating (I made that term up to mean WHATEVER score the GW sytem uses to determine your opponents) they sure as heck don't count for yours. I don't know all the Galactic War Power Rating specifics, but i do know that under ZERO circumstances should a 25K GP top 5 account be facing a team with 50K power on any node in a GW. And I had never seen it happen prior to early October.
BucMan55
6 years ago
How is this acceptable:

Spoiler

over 70,000 GP with 3 G10 and 2 G8 against a top 5 of just under 22000 with barely 3 G7 characters??

Something is wrong with GW. The sooner people stop worrying about the semantics of the EXACT way it determines opponents and see the bigger picture, hopefully the faster we can get some answers.
AOHNH
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1701518" wrote:
I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.

Well, some players are posting that it's based on arena team and some say that it's based on top 5 chars. I've even seen a quote being posted that made it look like devs themselves said it was based on the highest GP arena win.

In my case the two scenarios are the same anyways.

But in the end, like the above poster said, it doesn't really matter. There's a problem with GW matchmaking system. It needs to be addressed.
BucMan55
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1701854" wrote:
"AOHNH;c-1701814" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1701518" wrote:
I believe the first problem here is to understand how GW matchmaking is actually designed/implemented.

Well, some players are posting that it's based on arena team and some say that it's based on top 5 chars. I've even seen a quote being posted that made it look like devs themselves said it was based on the highest GP arena win.

Highest arena win? That was the widely accepted theory back in 2016. What's the date of that quote?

Latest I had seen was top 5 of your roster, regardless of if they had been used in a squad together.

And by my previous comment of acceptable, I am meaning as in acceptable to a properly functioning GW matchmaking system. Answer: It isn't.

Longer answer:

Since this phenomenon only recently appeared in the beginning of October, we can deduce that it is indeed some kind of error. Having gone thru probably 1000 GWs over several devices and family accounts who play, to not see it ONE time from the time I got in to GW in April of 2018 til the beginning of October would indeed be one hell of a lucky stretch. I have seen it about every other day since then. Usually in battles that aren't usually hard(like 1-5 or 7, and 8).
AOHNH
6 years ago
Honestly, it doesn't look like CG/EA cares that much. GW feedback is flooded with simple complaints, elaborate explanations, and tons of examples. There's no reply. Not even "we're looking into this".
Darth_DeVito
6 years ago
"AOHNH;c-1702306" wrote:
Honestly, it doesn't look like CG/EA cares that much. GW feedback is flooded with simple complaints, elaborate explanations, and tons of examples. There's no reply. Not even "we're looking into this".

And the reason they don't care much is the choir of "you're doing it wrong" and "it's always been this way" from older players who have never faced this issue in this severe form and can't fathom that something has changed. As long as the devs read five reassurances that everything is working fine from players who don't have to put up with this issue for every bug report, they're not going to act.
AOHNH
6 years ago
"Darth_DeVito;c-1703382" wrote:
And the reason they don't care much is the choir of "you're doing it wrong" and "it's always been this way" from older players who have never faced this issue in this severe form and can't fathom that something has changed. As long as the devs read five reassurances that everything is working fine from players who don't have to put up with this issue for every bug report, they're not going to act.

I really wish all these posts from older players would stop already. They're all long time at 85, have been simming for months, and don't have a good idea what the new players are experiencing. I keep seeing some posts like "I went from 50 to 150 without losing" and can't help myself but call that a straight out lie. It's just not possible with the current matchmaking system for players under 85.
jpplayer29
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1706600" wrote:
"Jpplayer;c-1706419" wrote:
So there was a bug. That wasn’t definitely normal. Won the GW 2 straight days already.

Thanks to the guy that posted that. And thank you all.

You're welcome.

The only thing you did was undermining the problem. You never took this seriously.
rpaulsen310
6 years ago
"NoomiZ;c-1708196" wrote:
"AOHNH;c-1707996" wrote:
3 days now, and no super OP teams on node 3. Either I'm lucky, or the bug was indeed fixed.

There was no bug to begin with.

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