Is there a bug with GW matchmaking?

"BucMan55;c-1702021" wrote:

Longer answer:

Since this phenomenon only recently appeared in the beginning of October, we can deduce that it is indeed some kind of error. Having gone thru probably 1000 GWs over several devices and family accounts who play, to not see it ONE time from the time I got in to GW in April of 2018 til the beginning of October would indeed be one hell of a lucky stretch. I have seen it about every other day since then. Usually in battles that aren't usually hard(like 1-5 or 7, and 8).

The best way forward is to document those cases with screen shots of both teams and calculations of stat power and then submit it to CG/EA.

Honestly, it doesn't look like CG/EA cares that much. GW feedback is flooded with simple complaints, elaborate explanations, and tons of examples. There's no reply. Not even "we're looking into this".

They’re pretty happy with it, it hasn’t changed that much in the past 3 years despite thousands and thousands of complaints about it lol.
The Sim option implemented doesn’t help you since it requires you to complete 150.
The difficulty cap at the top end doesn’t affect you either since that only kicks in when you’re 85.
That’s pretty much the only 2 changes I know to GW.
So yea, unless you can prove that there’s a bug, you can shove your complaints together with the other few thousand complaints in the GW mega thread.

"Huatimus;c-1702381" wrote:

So yea, unless you can prove that there’s a bug, you can shove your complaints together with the other few thousand complaints in the GW mega thread.

Those are the only documented changes to GW.


Again, unless I was historically lucky, I made it from April to the time documented in early October without the OP teams showing up on over 1000 GW campaigns(I have several devices, and several family members who play - and nobody saw this until early October)....The complaints on here before that were at least teams in the same ballpark as the one complaining, just OP based on zetas(not counted) or synergy(again not counted).

An account with a 70000 GP top 5 facing an 80000 GP CLS team with Zetas is not the same issue as an account with a 22000 top 5 facing a 45000 team. (or the 70000 team I just documented at the top of this thread)

There really is only two options. One it is a bug. Or two it is intentional. The only thing that makes me think it is a bug is going 4-5 months without seeing it - and seeing it at least every other day since on accounts who just got into GW thru level 85 accounts.

"AOHNH;c-1702306" wrote:
Honestly, it doesn't look like CG/EA cares that much. GW feedback is flooded with simple complaints, elaborate explanations, and tons of examples. There's no reply. Not even "we're looking into this".

I tried to consolidate but the thread got watered down with semantic arguments over how we can't determine if the system is broken because we don't know the minutia of how it works. I have posted pics of when this stuff happens hoping we can get a dev to check it out. Not going to hold my breath though.

"AOHNH;c-1702306" wrote:
Honestly, it doesn't look like CG/EA cares that much. GW feedback is flooded with simple complaints, elaborate explanations, and tons of examples. There's no reply. Not even "we're looking into this".

And the reason they don't care much is the choir of "you're doing it wrong" and "it's always been this way" from older players who have never faced this issue in this severe form and can't fathom that something has changed. As long as the devs read five reassurances that everything is working fine from players who don't have to put up with this issue for every bug report, they're not going to act.

"Darth_DeVito;c-1703382" wrote:
And the reason they don't care much is the choir of "you're doing it wrong" and "it's always been this way" from older players who have never faced this issue in this severe form and can't fathom that something has changed. As long as the devs read five reassurances that everything is working fine from players who don't have to put up with this issue for every bug report, they're not going to act.

I really wish all these posts from older players would stop already. They're all long time at 85, have been simming for months, and don't have a good idea what the new players are experiencing. I keep seeing some posts like "I went from 50 to 150 without losing" and can't help myself but call that a straight out lie. It's just not possible with the current matchmaking system for players under 85.

"AOHNH;c-1703523" wrote:

I really wish all these posts from older players would stop already. They're all long time at 85, have been simming for months, and don't have a good idea what the new players are experiencing. I keep seeing some posts like "I went from 50 to 150 without losing" and can't help myself but call that a straight out lie. It's just not possible with the current matchmaking system for players under 85.

I didn't do all 150 in a row, but got there pretty easily, especially after I got Bastila. But that was before the issue that plagues us now. I do have other accounts(PC, tablet, phone guest acct, family) that I see regularly that aren't at 150 so it is easy for me to see the issue.

Pro tip for those in the 50-60 range. Get Bastila and 4 other Jedi. My son has ran into teams that are much higher power then him according to the GW power by node research and has been able to either outright defeat them, or use a lower power team to take out one or two guys, and then finish easily with Bastila Jedi.

Empire with Tarkin lead, Vader, Tie Pilot, Snowtrooper, and RG are quite formidable if you keep them up with the rest of your roster(helps to get a couple 10 pack bonus shards from the bronziums on RG and Snow). Think he said they(19k power) beat a team that was almost 30K. Well, only Vader and Tie Pilot survived, but he got thru that battle 9 to go on and complete the war.

"Darth_DeVito;c-1703382" wrote:

"AOHNH;c-1702306" wrote:
Honestly, it doesn't look like CG/EA cares that much. GW feedback is flooded with simple complaints, elaborate explanations, and tons of examples. There's no reply. Not even "we're looking into this".

And the reason they don't care much is the choir of "you're doing it wrong" and "it's always been this way" from older players who have never faced this issue in this severe form and can't fathom that something has changed. As long as the devs read five reassurances that everything is working fine from players who don't have to put up with this issue for every bug report, they're not going to act.

"Older players who have never faced this issue" can still analyze well documenred complaints and give critique to the ones, where the matchmaking appears to be as designed (cases with no apparent bugs).

"Older players who have never faced this issue" can still ask posters, who include no detail or documentation with their simple complaint, to provide details and documentation.

Complaints with no details and no documentation is just noise and won't be taken seriously by the devs. Complaints when there's not problem and everything is working as intended is just noise. Those types of complaints just water everything down, and may cover the complaints where the complainer may have a point.

"AOHNH;c-1703523" wrote:

"Darth_DeVito;c-1703382" wrote:
And the reason they don't care much is the choir of "you're doing it wrong" and "it's always been this way" from older players who have never faced this issue in this severe form and can't fathom that something has changed. As long as the devs read five reassurances that everything is working fine from players who don't have to put up with this issue for every bug report, they're not going to act.

I really wish all these posts from older players would stop already. They're all long time at 85, have been simming for months, and don't have a good idea what the new players are experiencing. I keep seeing some posts like "I went from 50 to 150 without losing" and can't help myself but call that a straight out lie. It's just not possible with the current matchmaking system for players under 85.

And you've got no idea what older experienced players faced.

Are you meeting maxxed out and unbeatable Revans the second he was in game? Didn't think so.

That was our experience whenever meta defining toons like thrawn or CLS were introduced. If you didn't get them yourself at first pass there were virtually no GW wins for you for the next 3 to 6 months.

GW is easier than it used to be. They did this change about a year ago. That is absolutely the reason older players don't greet these posts with the sympathy many seek.

That doesn't mean it's easy, far from it, and that curve from about mid level 70's up is absolutely brutal. Some of us forget that and also forget that new additions like nightsisters and bastilla will present newer players with a much different challenge that you can't just throw a zeta on finn at and breeze through.

But, by the same logic, you've got access to far more powerful at a low star/GP lineups than we ever did that can get the job done for you; nightsisters, bastilla jedi, resistance, first order all good examples.

It is frustrating, because you probably have been doing ok but have now reached the tipping point, when you begin to hit unbeatable teams. every. single. GW.

The goalposts no longer keep moving like they used to. Every team has a counter and by broadening your roster you will get over these hurdles. Eventually. Good luck.