It's time to balance Baze/Chirrut

"fascizio;c-1058811" wrote:
This seems like a you problem that you're trying to make a we problem.

+1

I'm strict F2P. My Chirrut is at 4* (farming from Ships) and my Baze is at 5* (buying w/crystals from Shipments). My Chirrut isn't *quite* good enough for me to put in my standard arena team yet, but I'm getting there!
I haven't used him in arena or GW yet, but I'm working on it. Basically what I'm saying is that a F2P player can get the combo, just means you have to put some dedication to it.

I didn't read the whole thread so I apologize if this has been brought up.
Nothing needs to be done to the characters as the game is always in progress and something will come by to make them obsolete (See every other meta over the past 1.5 years). Rey was not modded but she is rarely seen anymore. Sid was not changed (well he got better with a Zeta) but is rarely seen anymore. Biggs and Wedge were not changed but are becoming more and more rare in arena teams.

The game grows. Just because Chirrut and Baze are near the top now, they won't be for long. Something else will come along to knock them out of their lead.

"scuba;c-1058796" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Same could be said for the other side.
Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Like its your motto.

Well, at least I don't spell it like that
I just hate that the devs went too far with them, when they could have done something less but still great with them.
But why eould whales want that? And isn't it you running full rogue one?

"MayAddy622;c-1058791" wrote:
For the rabid defenders, you still understand that they are overturned, just will not admit to it. Since everyone complains about them, the majority of people in the game, regardless if you think they are fine or not, there is a problem.

Addressing it is probably not going to happen in the form of a nerf, but a power creep of even worse then these 2 will be the counter. Which would everyone prefer? Something greater then the two of these together? Or just sticking to them at the top and dealing with it? If enough people would run specific teams to counter them, eventually they would lose popularity. I think more counter chaze teams are the better answer to getting balance in arena then a power creep of something even worse that would negate them.

What majority are you talking about? Most of the players that have them don't even use them in arena. Look at the meta reports. If anything they are too easily countered.

"Gamorrean;c-1058812" wrote:

"JediGhost117;c-1058774" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Pipe down, you are clearly showing your arrogance here. The counters argument that you keep being given is given to you for a reason. It's actually how you play the game. Players like you that whine about a toon or combo of toons will whine until the game dies. Players like me and the people that give you the counters argument actually know how to play the game and what it actually requires to fix certain toons. In the case of Chaze, there isn't any necessary changes that need to be made to them because we have so many other toons that are far more accessible than them that counter them effortlessly. Case and point Boba Fett. His entire kit hard counters Chaze and that's only 1 toon in your squad versus their 2. By the numbers that already puts you at a 5v3 advantage in arena battles.

A single counter toon can't win against chaze+3 other meta toon so easily, and if you go full counter chaze team you Lose.
I have Boba I do win over Them (But not as easy as you make it Sound)
They still do too much and would you really want to se a chaze 2.0?
And why feel the need to start talking about arrogance?

If you are using Boba and still having a problem with Chaze then you are even worse at the game than I thought. Once Chirrut cleanses that's a free kill from Boba nearly every time.

While we're at it, I'd also like a request to balance GK and ZYlo and Rex please. I'd like to be able to just use one team and auto my way to #1
Thanks

"Gamorrean;c-1058861" wrote:

"scuba;c-1058796" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Same could be said for the other side.
Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Like its your motto.

Well, at least I don't spell it like that
I just hate that the devs went too far with them, when they could have done something less but still great with them.
But why eould whales want that? And isn't it you running full rogue one?

I am and I could really care less about this argument. I see my R1 team get beat by teams with out Chirrut and Baze all the time.

I like reading them for fun because no matter what it is the same arguments over and over and over and over and over. Guess what... more than likely nothing is going to be changed with them. There has been plenty of time to change/balance/nerf them and guess what it hasn't happened yet so most likely won't.

There will always be a nerf call for whatever the current flavor is, and it will always been an entertaining argument.

"Morpheus;c-1058881" wrote:
While we're at it, I'd also like a request to balance GK and ZYlo and Rex please. I'd like to be able to just use one team and auto my way to #1
Thanks

Yeah, this is actually an issue though. While I can see why GK is as strong as he is, he's not fairly balanced like the other Heroic toon it. Rex lead has been around for a very long time considering full-clones haven't ever really been relevant in arena, and Zylo is not so much of an issue, more annoying that he is that strong and Rey isn't anymore.

"scuba;c-1058885" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058861" wrote:

"scuba;c-1058796" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Same could be said for the other side.
Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Like its your motto.

Well, at least I don't spell it like that
I just hate that the devs went too far with them, when they could have done something less but still great with them.
But why eould whales want that? And isn't it you running full rogue one?

I am and I could really care less about this argument. I see my R1 team get beat by teams with out Chirrut and Baze all the time.

I like reading them for fun because no matter what it is the same arguments over and over and over and over and over. Guess what... more than likely nothing is going to be changed with them. There has been plenty of time to change/balance/nerf them and guess what it hasn't happened yet so most likely won't.

There will always be a nerf call for whatever the current flavor is, and it will always been an entertaining argument.

Some of them are warranted though. This just happens to be one that doesn't require a nerf as they are already balanced. I think the next one will be GK threads as he becomes more common.

"JediGhost117;c-1058898" wrote:

"scuba;c-1058885" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058861" wrote:

"scuba;c-1058796" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Same could be said for the other side.
Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Like its your motto.

Well, at least I don't spell it like that
I just hate that the devs went too far with them, when they could have done something less but still great with them.
But why eould whales want that? And isn't it you running full rogue one?

I am and I could really care less about this argument. I see my R1 team get beat by teams with out Chirrut and Baze all the time.

I like reading them for fun because no matter what it is the same arguments over and over and over and over and over. Guess what... more than likely nothing is going to be changed with them. There has been plenty of time to change/balance/nerf them and guess what it hasn't happened yet so most likely won't.

There will always be a nerf call for whatever the current flavor is, and it will always been an entertaining argument.

Some of them are warranted though. This just happens to be one that doesn't require a nerf as they are already balanced. I think the next one will be GK threads as he becomes more common.

Kenobi is already second on the meta report. Above Baze. Nihilis is first by a significant margin. If Chaze was a problematic as people contend neither of those things would be true.