6 years ago

Jedi Knight Anakin Situation

Just want to start by saying this is mostly a complain post, so who ever doesn't wanna hear it you are more than welcome to leave now. Also sorry about my English, not my native language.
I am a huge Anakin fan and since a started playing this game 3 years ago i have always tried to include him in my lineups. In my first year playing the game, he was pretty useful in a jedi lineup but fell quick through the ranks with Aylas countering and stunning abilities and with Ezras power.
I was pretty excited when i heard he was getting a rework, but i was quickly disappointed by how he ended up getting a touch-up. When they originally mentioned that he would get a rework. Then they said he wasn't going to get nerfed, but they found a way to exclude him from jedi lineups. I know people are saying that there is going to be another Anakin, but the only other Anakin that i can think that might be coming in the game is Fallen Anakin or pedwan Anakin from episode 2. The first mentioned is definitely a strong character but a dark side character, which i dont need or want as much. Now the second one, if he was to be introduced in the game in my opinion should be less powerful or useful of a character than the one we already have. The one we already have looks like the Anakin from the Clones Wars series and episode 3, which was one of the most powerful duelist jedis and a great master to Ashoka. Reckless but damn strong! He destroyed Dooku, which was so much more viable than Anakin in this game and they decided to give him a whole new boost nothing like the fake touch up Anakin got. Now, Asajj another really useful character in the game was beaten so many times by Anakin it was ridiculous, but still got 2 zetas and is being used in so many different aspects of the game. I might be bias, but i really can't understand the thought process behind the reworks that are being given. Dooku, GG, Nute and Asajj have gotten such great reworks and they were all humiliated by Anakin in both the films and the cartoon series.
I am a big Anakin fan, but i think this stands for many other characters. Like why is d*mb a*s Jolee so much more useful than Hermit f*cking Yoda, the master of all masters. Why? Why is Anakin nerfed and touched up in such a weak way. Since he defeated Dooku, Asajj and Nute in the movies, shouldn't he be stronger or more useful character in the game than them? He has gotten 3 reworks now and still can't be used in many aspects of the game. Can someone from the CG Team please explain?

I would really appreciate it!
Thanks for reading!

@CG_SBCrumb
@CG_Erik
@CG_Carrie

NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
Let’s not complain about some characters getting two zetas while others getting one

I don’t want CG ago start releasing every character with a 2 zeta requirement

JKA in GR is arguably the second best team (or third) on defense right now.

Reworks aren’t suppose to make a toon meta defining (some can), it’s meant to bring them more in line with the state of the game than when they were released
gianniski95
6 years ago
"Liath;c-1863569" wrote:
Wait when was Dooku so much more viable? Like 3 years ago during dodge meta?

Since forever! As mentioned by you he was a meta character which Anakin never was, he already had a zeta and he could be used in so many different aspects of the game. Even to get Padme!
gianniski95
6 years ago
"Ultra;c-1863575" wrote:
Let’s not complain about some characters getting two zetas while others getting one

I don’t want CG ago start releasing every character with a 2 zeta requirement

JKA in GR is arguably the second best team (or third) on defense right now.

Reworks aren’t suppose to make a toon meta defining (some can), it’s meant to bring them more in line with the state of the game than when they were released

I am not asking for a meta character or for him to have two zetas. In my opinion and that is just my opinion, he deserves more than what he got especially after seeing how Dooku was reworked and since they said he wan't going to get nerfed!
NicWester
6 years ago
Because you can farm Anakin from a Cantina node whereas Jolee comes from single-node farms.
gianniski95
6 years ago
"NicWester;c-1863579" wrote:
Because you can farm Anakin from a Cantina node whereas Jolee comes from single-node farms.

I was comparing Jolee to Hermit Yoda if you didn't notice!
gianniski95
6 years ago
Why do people like to dispute what you have said just so they can feel better?
I will never understand it! Read, research your thought and then comment!
gianniski95
6 years ago
"Liath;c-1863593" wrote:
"Obitoo_johnobi11;c-1863576" wrote:
"Liath;c-1863569" wrote:
Wait when was Dooku so much more viable? Like 3 years ago during dodge meta?

Since forever! As mentioned by you he was a meta character which Anakin never was, he already had a zeta and he could be used in so many different aspects of the game. Even to get Padme!

He had a zeta that basically nobody gave him because it wasn’t very good. The fact that some people used him in arena 3 years ago has no bearing on whether he deserves a rework now. Nobody was using him at end game for anything. Using him to get Padme is no different than using Anakin to get Yoda, and if you actually did use him to get Padme then it got you a pretty darn good place to use your Anakin.

"Obitoo_johnobi11;c-1863584" wrote:
Why do people like to dispute what you have said just so they can feel better?
I will never understand it! Read, research your thought and then comment!

People dispute what you say because it makes no sense or they disagree. That’s how forums work. Disagreeing with you doesn’t mean people didn’t read or think through their thoughts.

Josh : No. You're listening to me, but you're not understanding me.
Toby : No, I'm disagreeing with you. That doesn't mean I'm not listening to you or understanding what you're saying - I'm doing all three at the same time.

1. I believed he was used by many in the game even in the past year. He is a character that can be used in many lineups with different tags. He was used in GA and was a beast, he could also be used in TB.
2. I didn't get padme because i didn't have such a strong separatist team, but i will agree on that.
3. Lastly, i understand was disagreeing is and i do it too, but after i have read what was mentioned. I said Hermit Yoda and Jolee and because he just wanted to comment on something he said something different.
gianniski95
6 years ago
"Daishi;c-1863627" wrote:
Idk.. anakin is a very strong character. He just has a simple kit instead of a complex one, which I feel suits his character. He wasn't a thinker or planner. He was a strong fighter that would go into a rage (how un-jedi of him) whenever his family was threatened. That's exactly what he does now! His kit fits his character well and when used with the proper team, he is a very strong character.

(Insert complaint)
"But he is no longer plug and play! They nerfed him by restricting him to galactic republic!"

True, but that also makes sense. He still gets a bonus turn, taking advantage if the enemies moment of triumph in defeating your ally to strike back. However his righteous anger 100% damage buff only applies if that defeated ally was a friend of his.

Overall his rework thematically is spot on, and let's him be powerful within a team that he synergize with.

Get your padme next time and get them all to G12 and try using anakin in the team that is built to work with him, then come back and explain why his rework wasnt sufficient.

I totally agree! I just think that he should be more useful on a jedi lineup than he is now. After all, he never really supported the Galactic Republic as much.
Also, he still gets a bonus turn, but with his simple kit as you mentioned there is not much you can do against the enemies. I definitely believe he was a better character than what CLS was at than point and he is nothing close to that.
adamja
Rising Newcomer
6 years ago
to all fairness this game is still by lore a holographic game /chess, so movie lore shouldn't play role. but I understand it is weird when poggle defeats someone like ashoka, so it is difficult to balance and develop
RSithLord
6 years ago
"Obitoo_johnobi11;c-1864024" wrote:
"Daishi;c-1863627" wrote:
Idk.. anakin is a very strong character. He just has a simple kit instead of a complex one, which I feel suits his character. He wasn't a thinker or planner. He was a strong fighter that would go into a rage (how un-jedi of him) whenever his family was threatened. That's exactly what he does now! His kit fits his character well and when used with the proper team, he is a very strong character.

(Insert complaint)
"But he is no longer plug and play! They nerfed him by restricting him to galactic republic!"

True, but that also makes sense. He still gets a bonus turn, taking advantage if the enemies moment of triumph in defeating your ally to strike back. However his righteous anger 100% damage buff only applies if that defeated ally was a friend of his.

Overall his rework thematically is spot on, and let's him be powerful within a team that he synergize with.

Get your padme next time and get them all to G12 and try using anakin in the team that is built to work with him, then come back and explain why his rework wasnt sufficient.

I totally agree! I just think that he should be more useful on a jedi lineup than he is now. After all, he never really supported the Galactic Republic as much.
Also, he still gets a bonus turn, but with his simple kit as you mentioned there is not much you can do against the enemies. I definitely believe he was a better character than what CLS was at than point and he is nothing close to that.

The CLS argument doesn't hold it's ground. You are comparing a 3,5 year old cantina+node farm toon to a Hero's Journey character. This is a game on a holotable, not accurate Star Wars lore. Take into account the difficulty of obtaining the toon, not realistic power levels. (Or if you really insist on the lore, Anakin being used with GR makes a lot more sense than being used with Bastila or Revan).

If story-based power levels mattered, Palpatine would have been the meta since he was released, possibly being outperformed by Triumvirate and/or DR only, but since the two eras are so far apart, there's no "realistic" comparison for that either. (Those two actually beat Palpatine, but not because of lore. They are both more recent and much harder to obtain, hence the difference in performance).