Kyber 1 Shrinking?

Yes, we understand that the squish is to keep Kyber 1 10% of all of kyber. Also, based on the data Kyber as whole is shrinking faster than other divisions. If the system is left without any adjustments, I fully believe Kyber will continue to shrink faster then the overall gac population and continue to make it more difficult to get from say arodium into kyber perpetuating the cycle.

"RodFarva34;d-259906" wrote:
2 seasons ago ended with a score of 3864 and started next season 89 points lower at 3775. Last season ended at 3804 and starting this season at 3724.

That's 2 wins per season being taken away when it's a struggle to go 5 and 4.

Curious if others are seeing this in Kyber 1.

Well, I'm nothing special, I'm in kyber 3 or 4, dépending in the season, but Ive won my last two and both said no change, which would've made sense given the old system , but now there no logical reason that I could win two rounds and have no change on my rating.

"nfidel2k;c-2391750" wrote:
okay, I’ll back out after this, but in a nutshell:
If CG needs 50 players to move from division 1 to division 2, it doesn’t matter where your skill rating is. If you are unlucky player number 50 from the bottom, the line gets moved to where you are. If you were 200 points above the cutoff, and skill squish drops you 100 points, the line gets moved up 100 points to move the players.
If you were 200 points above the line, and there was no skill squish, the line gets moved up 200 points; just enough to move 50 players. The factor that causes the division drop is not linked to the skill squish. It’s not semantics it’s just logic.

This makes the most sense to me. The squish isn't what determines ones Division. It's where they redraw the Division lines each season. The redraw can happen before or after the squish with the same resulting Divisions and the same percentage of players in each.

I forget the numbers, but each match-up has a decreasing number of Skill Rating points up for grabs. First is like 43, 2nd is 42, third is 41, and so on until the end up the season. I believe the squish only really serves to obviate the need to change these Rewards every time. This could certainly mean the number of wins/losses to move Divisions may vary from Season to Season, causing some confusion among the players.

Does it make sense? If there is a set amount in Kyber and everybody starts with a set amount of Skill Points, surely we should be trading skill points and all things should remain Status Quo?

I can see it making sense for Div 4/5.

Where at the end/start of the season all those in division 1 (in the league lower) move up to the league above. This amount of players need to go down to maintain the status quo.

If that is more than the players in Division 5, then the bottom of division 4 needs to be squished out of the league. This shouldn't affect Kybers 1-3 in anyway, right?

Not if numbers were being maintained anyway.......

I think things could be a lot simpler. The only positive I see with this exact current system is it helps to maintain a variety of opponents. If things were more stable, we'd be playing the same people a lot more (unless you're top of K1 of course) ...........which is possibly a very important reason why we're having so much flux.

Personally I'd like to see zero division changes until the end of the week and zero difference between a division and league change. The amount going up and down being set and being transparent, so you know where you stand.

Minor gripes though, I'm pretty happy with what we have.

Wasn’t the original question is K1 shrinking…it is. Which mean less crystals being handed out every payout time. Yes it is only 20 crystals per day per person for the folks squished down (using K1 to K2 as an example) but as a whole CG has a crystal target in mind for the entire population. They have been adjusting accordingly.

I'm sure someone in CG is happy because a smaller number of players competing means they are paying out less crystals. It makes sense to someone in CG with zero common sense that only counts revenue, not reality.

"Antario;c-2391712" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2391566" wrote:
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GP really isn't accurate in determining how well a player does in GAC. Especially the further they fall, and the less of their GP they can use.

That's only partially true. In the grand schema of the things yes. But if a player has more GP, it means also a larger roster. While that does not necessarily mean they have direct advantage on defense, it could mean a lot for offense if it comes to a slugfest type of match. Some good defense teams might stop 1, 2 or 3 attacks. But they can't hold forever. That does have an effect on the board placement. I for example have a much smaller roster compared to the players I fight. For me it can be a tough decision which teams (apart from GLs) I keep for offense. My opponents usually don't have such problem.

Don't get me wrong. There's no way having more GP is a handicap in a match up, right? It'll never be a disadvantage. GP is relevant in GAC. However, that was taken care of with our starting divisions. If you're competent at your GP, a large GP mismatch in your favour shouldn't be relevant.

However, if 2 players are meeting with a large GP disparity in a lower starting division; GP is also't probably not going to be a good indicator of true GAC power. Either the higher GP player has fallen leagues, whilst still playing every GAC and can't use as much GP (ok yes your scenario will play at times, but that's what makes it a contest), or they're not playing actively and they win depending on which way the winds blowing today.

"Fieldgulls;c-2391793" wrote:
Wasn’t the original question is K1 shrinking…it is. Which mean less crystals being handed out every payout time. Yes it is only 20 crystals per day per person for the folks squished down (using K1 to K2 as an example) but as a whole CG has a crystal target in mind for the entire population. They have been adjusting accordingly.

The whole of Kyber has shrunk significantly. So that's a lot more crystals going missing.

"MaruMaru;c-2391817" wrote:

"TVF;c-2391816" wrote:
People saying or not saying something doesn't matter to CG. None of this talk matters.

It doesn't? Makes one wonder why datacrons didn't stay exactly as they are released then.

This talk isn't about DCs. Most talk here is pointless. Ask anyone.

Didn't they ask for feedback on datacrons and then selectively use 'feedback' from that?

"This is what we're hearing..."

Do they really read and take in generally what's on the forums? I very much have my doubts about that.