Kylo ren

Buff Mace? The only time I've seen Mace fight was in Ep2, and if I recall he had a full army of Jedi's with him. He then got pwned by Palps in Ep3.

Kylo single handedly destroyed a computer console - boys got skills

"NicolasRage;878573" wrote:
The whole movie was spent demonstrating how powerful Kylo Ren is. He stopped a blaster bolt mid-air, and continued to walk around and have a conversation with no effort. He used the force to read minds. Last, but definitely not least, he continued to fight Finn ( a melee fighting prodigy in his trooper training) and Rey (who is also obviously strong with the force) while he had just taken a bowcaster shot to the gut. Previously in the movie, the bowcaster shot was shown to send people flying.

So please uninformed, false Star Wars fan, please tell me again why you think Kylo Ren is weak?

Wow so salty... This uninformed star wars fans had only read some books... (not cannon anymore). The only Cannon linked with Kylo now (by what I know) is the movie (on my opinion better than the phantom menace, only) and I saw it, not so impressed... He is good, but would you compare him to Mace? (of course, on the Last Jedi Kylo may become more powerful). I was only expressing my opinion so next time, you must know the person and think twice before you talk shi-t onfending the person.

"MasterMasterTimelord;878590" wrote:

"NicolasRage;878573" wrote:
The whole movie was spent demonstrating how powerful Kylo Ren is. He stopped a blaster bolt mid-air, and continued to walk around and have a conversation with no effort. He used the force to read minds. Last, but definitely not least, he continued to fight Finn ( a melee fighting prodigy in his trooper training) and Rey (who is also obviously strong with the force) while he had just taken a bowcaster shot to the gut. Previously in the movie, the bowcaster shot was shown to send people flying.

So please uninformed, false Star Wars fan, please tell me again why you think Kylo Ren is weak?

Wow so salty... This uninformed star wars fans had only read some books... (not cannon anymore). The only Cannon linked with Kylo now (by what I know) is the movie (on my opinion better than the phantom menace, only) and I saw it, not so impressed... He is good, but would you compare him to Mace? (of course, on the Last Jedi Kylo may become more powerful). I was only expressing my opinion so next time, you must know the person and think twice before you talk shi-t onfending the person.

Other fact is that if only the series are cannon now the new characters will have more advantage, because of the advances on special effects, we can't be silly and ignore that.

"NicolasRage;878573" wrote:
The whole movie was spent demonstrating how powerful Kylo Ren is. He stopped a blaster bolt mid-air, and continued to walk around and have a conversation with no effort. He used the force to read minds. Last, but definitely not least, he continued to fight Finn ( a melee fighting prodigy in his trooper training) and Rey (who is also obviously strong with the force) while he had just taken a bowcaster shot to the gut. Previously in the movie, the bowcaster shot was shown to send people flying.

So please uninformed, false Star Wars fan, please tell me again why you think Kylo Ren is weak?

Exactly this

"Mullato;878566" wrote:

"JohnTS676;878561" wrote:

"Allenb60;878543" wrote:
You can call him garbage but he still stopped a blaster bolt in mid-air and the shooter using the force, no one that's canon has ever done that before. I thought it was funny how he was worried he wouldn't be as strong as Vader even though all of the abilities he demonstrated were stronger

I don't know much outside of the movies (which only show Vader past his prime when he is old and weaker) but apparently Vader does some pretty impressive stuff in some of the other Star Wars universe stories

All of that stuff is non-canon.

I forgot the canon thing, I've liked a lot the Thrawn dinasty, but it was, for me, somehow necessary to remove somethings from the Canon, as the story in wich Chewie dies.

"MasterMasterTimelord;878605" wrote:

"Mullato;878566" wrote:

"JohnTS676;878561" wrote:

"Allenb60;878543" wrote:
You can call him garbage but he still stopped a blaster bolt in mid-air and the shooter using the force, no one that's canon has ever done that before. I thought it was funny how he was worried he wouldn't be as strong as Vader even though all of the abilities he demonstrated were stronger

I don't know much outside of the movies (which only show Vader past his prime when he is old and weaker) but apparently Vader does some pretty impressive stuff in some of the other Star Wars universe stories

All of that stuff is non-canon.

I forgot the canon thing, I've liked a lot the Thrawn dinasty, but it was, for me, somehow necessary to remove somethings from the Canon, as the story in wich Chewie dies.

Haha yea, the eu had some pretty cool stuff in it...Along wth some horrible things.

lol the ongoing saga

Have you forgotten the first 75% of the movie?
He did stuff we barely ever saw others do.

Then he kills his father... you know, that kinda potentially distracted him for that half a second it took chewie to blast him.

A blast that made everyone else fly like a bird.

Yet he could still continue to function afterwards while internally bleeding.

He's not weak and I anticipate they'll
make him wreck havoc in the upcoming episodes

"HanYolo1313;878588" wrote:

"Allenb60;878543" wrote:
You can call him garbage but he still stopped a blaster bolt in mid-air and the shooter using the force, no one that's canon has ever done that before. I thought it was funny how he was worried he wouldn't be as strong as Vader even though all of the abilities he demonstrated were stronger

+1 and he was only in one movie so far. He might be the most powerful user of the force in episode IX for all we know.

Yeah, I must consider that, but let's not forget all the role of Vader on the story.

Edit: Kylo, on movie 7 format, would never beat Vader or Mace (I know, his training wasn't fullfiled), but what matters is: he was buffed, on his current movie 7 stats, and not Mace (for an example). On the game Mace is useless and he was the most powerful Jedi, on Kenobi's opinion.

Everyone keeps saying he's garbage... and everyone basis that on his fight with Finn and Rey? That's silly. He caught a blaster bolt in mid air and froze Poe and Rey completely in their tracks. The only "battle" we saw him in he was wounded both physically... and emotionally? (BooHoo I killed my Dad). Plus we have no idea what kind of previous training Rey has. Oh he sucks cause he couldn't beat one untrained scavenger... till you find out she is Ani or Palps reincarnated... Where is my jump to conclusions mat. I saw the force awakens so I'm an expert on all things force related...

Feel free to disagree (I know many will), but for me, Kylo Ren was the first Star Wars villain I was actually afraid of when he first appeared. He's so erratic, unpredictable, and clearly unhinged; I was never really sure what he was going to do next (outburst scenes and the bit where he force chokes/pulls the officer to his hand were terrific). I love the emperor and vader, but (until rogue one) I never felt intimidated or afraid of them.