So to start by saying that I think the gear economy is really good at the moment and that I don't want to come across like I want everything really easy!The 2 pinch points in the game imo, are kyro's and signal data. The concept of which I'm fine with, as in there should be a difficulty in getting characters from L0-R9.However this year we had over 20 characters released all requiring 300+ Kyro's to get them to Relic. Probably a similar amount of characters last year to. I've just farmed the new characters for GL Leia and will have to grind through the Kyro's to get them to Relic. Again no complaint at this, as this is where I should be feeling the pinch. My issue is, as more characters are released your still stuck behind the pinch on 3/4 year old characters in the mass. Currently gearing up Mon mothma for example, is this really a character that should be a grind? Bad batch as a whole are another good example huge amount of kyro's.Personally I would like them to release a new kryotech that replaced the pinch point on all new characters including the L12-13 piece. That way the current kyro's could be opened up a bit. In the same way they did with carbantis and stun guns.I'm also interested in knowing how everyone else farms their kyro's? Do you use crystals or farm on nodes.

"Arrowsmith23;d-267820" wrote:So to start by saying that I think the gear economy is really good at the moment and that I don't want to come across like I want everything really easy!The 2 pinch points in the game imo, are kyro's and signal data. The concept of which I'm fine with, as in there should be a difficulty in getting characters from L0-R9.However this year we had over 20 characters released all requiring 300+ Kyro's to get them to Relic. Probably a similar amount of characters last year to. I've just farmed the new characters for GL Leia and will have to grind through the Kyro's to get them to Relic. Again no complaint at this, as this is where I should be feeling the pinch. My issue is, as more characters are released your still stuck behind the pinch on 3/4 year old characters in the mass. Currently gearing up Mon mothma for example, is this really a character that should be a grind? Bad batch as a whole are another good example huge amount of kyro's.Personally I would like them to release a new kryotech that replaced the pinch point on all new characters including the L12-13 piece. That way the current kyro's could be opened up a bit. In the same way they did with carbantis and stun guns.I'm also interested in knowing how everyone else farms their kyro's? Do you use crystals or farm on nodes. I do the 3x50c refreshes and spend most of that on kyros, after a few hard nodes for toon/ship shards. I also use all GET2/3 and GAC currency on them, but never crystals on them directly.

I farm the prods on the light side node with all leftover LS-energy, and buy the computers with TW/TB/GAC currency. And then I try to plan it out in advance, so I have the kyros (and all other gear + relic materials) ready when I get a new toon to 7 stars.

"Arrowsmith23;d-267820" wrote:So to start by saying that I think the gear economy is really good at the moment and that I don't want to come across like I want everything really easy!The 2 pinch points in the game imo, are kyro's and signal data. The concept of which I'm fine with, as in there should be a difficulty in getting characters from L0-R9.However this year we had over 20 characters released all requiring 300+ Kyro's to get them to Relic. Probably a similar amount of characters last year to. I've just farmed the new characters for GL Leia and will have to grind through the Kyro's to get them to Relic. Again no complaint at this, as this is where I should be feeling the pinch. My issue is, as more characters are released your still stuck behind the pinch on 3/4 year old characters in the mass. Currently gearing up Mon mothma for example, is this really a character that should be a grind? Bad batch as a whole are another good example huge amount of kyro's.Personally I would like them to release a new kryotech that replaced the pinch point on all new characters including the L12-13 piece. That way the current kyro's could be opened up a bit. In the same way they did with carbantis and stun guns.I'm also interested in knowing how everyone else farms their kyro's? Do you use crystals or farm on nodes. I'm curious how long you've been playing. Long-time players should not be pinched by kyros anymore. For reference, I've been playing since spring of 2017 and have all 8 GLs. I spent some money during my first 5 years in game--maybe $300 over that 5-year span--but I haven't spent since then.I use GET2, GAC tokens, and spare normal energy to farm kryros. I don't even refresh normal energy anymore unless I need to for hard node farms, which is rare these days since I'm caught up until new toons drop. I'm sitting on about 1900 prods and 1200 laptops right now, and I just pushed Paz to G11 for Conquest. I rush-farmed Leia with my crystal stash, and I dipped below 200 of each kyro piece in doing so. But then I rebounded back pretty quick.I am curious how the economy feels to newer players.

Been playing since early 2020, so not sure where that places me. I light spend on a few bits and pieces but only really to keep me topped up. 4 GLs, probably have around 100 characters under relic level.Like I said, I think the economy is good atm overall, I just think the Kyro pinch is starting to become a little unnecessary, if it were replaced with a new piece it would shift the balance a little and let others catch up on older characters.I get it depends where you are in the game and how you are effected will vary. But there has been a lot of attention from CG to help new players catch up and I personally think this is one of the pinch points where it significantly delays progress on older stuff. For example I unlock most of the conquest characters by 2nd cycle but can't really gear them up because it delays lots of other important stepping stones before that.

I wonder what is worse, the Carb/Cuff/Gun bottlenecks we veteran players faced or what newer players face now. Not because I want to say "I had it worse so shut up" or anything like that. If it is as bad, then CG should probably do something to meet their goal of accelerating early players to the endgame.

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notthatguybefor
10 months ago
"Arrowsmith23;d-267820" wrote:
So to start by saying that I think the gear economy is really good at the moment and that I don't want to come across like I want everything really easy!

The 2 pinch points in the game imo, are kyro's and signal data. The concept of which I'm fine with, as in there should be a difficulty in getting characters from L0-R9.

However this year we had over 20 characters released all requiring 300+ Kyro's to get them to Relic. Probably a similar amount of characters last year to. I've just farmed the new characters for GL Leia and will have to grind through the Kyro's to get them to Relic. Again no complaint at this, as this is where I should be feeling the pinch. My issue is, as more characters are released your still stuck behind the pinch on 3/4 year old characters in the mass. Currently gearing up Mon mothma for example, is this really a character that should be a grind? Bad batch as a whole are another good example huge amount of kyro's.

Personally I would like them to release a new kryotech that replaced the pinch point on all new characters including the L12-13 piece. That way the current kyro's could be opened up a bit. In the same way they did with carbantis and stun guns.

I'm also interested in knowing how everyone else farms their kyro's? Do you use crystals or farm on nodes.

I do the 3x50c refreshes and spend most of that on kyros, after a few hard nodes for toon/ship shards. I also use all GET2/3 and GAC currency on them, but never crystals on them directly.
Krjst0ff
Seasoned Newcomer
10 months ago
I farm the prods on the light side node with all leftover LS-energy, and buy the computers with TW/TB/GAC currency.

And then I try to plan it out in advance, so I have the kyros (and all other gear + relic materials) ready when I get a new toon to 7 stars.
ccmoose
Rising Novice
10 months ago
"Arrowsmith23;d-267820" wrote:
So to start by saying that I think the gear economy is really good at the moment and that I don't want to come across like I want everything really easy!

The 2 pinch points in the game imo, are kyro's and signal data. The concept of which I'm fine with, as in there should be a difficulty in getting characters from L0-R9.

However this year we had over 20 characters released all requiring 300+ Kyro's to get them to Relic. Probably a similar amount of characters last year to. I've just farmed the new characters for GL Leia and will have to grind through the Kyro's to get them to Relic. Again no complaint at this, as this is where I should be feeling the pinch. My issue is, as more characters are released your still stuck behind the pinch on 3/4 year old characters in the mass. Currently gearing up Mon mothma for example, is this really a character that should be a grind? Bad batch as a whole are another good example huge amount of kyro's.

Personally I would like them to release a new kryotech that replaced the pinch point on all new characters including the L12-13 piece. That way the current kyro's could be opened up a bit. In the same way they did with carbantis and stun guns.

I'm also interested in knowing how everyone else farms their kyro's? Do you use crystals or farm on nodes.

I'm curious how long you've been playing. Long-time players should not be pinched by kyros anymore. For reference, I've been playing since spring of 2017 and have all 8 GLs. I spent some money during my first 5 years in game--maybe $300 over that 5-year span--but I haven't spent since then.

I use GET2, GAC tokens, and spare normal energy to farm kryros. I don't even refresh normal energy anymore unless I need to for hard node farms, which is rare these days since I'm caught up until new toons drop. I'm sitting on about 1900 prods and 1200 laptops right now, and I just pushed Paz to G11 for Conquest. I rush-farmed Leia with my crystal stash, and I dipped below 200 of each kyro piece in doing so. But then I rebounded back pretty quick.

I am curious how the economy feels to newer players.
BArrowsmith23
10 months ago
Been playing since early 2020, so not sure where that places me. I light spend on a few bits and pieces but only really to keep me topped up. 4 GLs, probably have around 100 characters under relic level.

Like I said, I think the economy is good atm overall, I just think the Kyro pinch is starting to become a little unnecessary, if it were replaced with a new piece it would shift the balance a little and let others catch up on older characters.

I get it depends where you are in the game and how you are effected will vary. But there has been a lot of attention from CG to help new players catch up and I personally think this is one of the pinch points where it significantly delays progress on older stuff. For example I unlock most of the conquest characters by 2nd cycle but can't really gear them up because it delays lots of other important stepping stones before that.
ccmoose
Rising Novice
10 months ago
I wonder what is worse, the Carb/Cuff/Gun bottlenecks we veteran players faced or what newer players face now. Not because I want to say "I had it worse so shut up" or anything like that. If it is as bad, then CG should probably do something to meet their goal of accelerating early players to the endgame.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
10 months ago
"Arrowsmith23;c-2454459" wrote:
I was here for the carb bottleneck, there was a reason they opened it up. I'm suggesting the same reason counts now. Not sure if it is quite as bad but add another 20 characters this year and it's getting there.

They changed it not opened it up
Instead of needing 600 carbs now you need 600 kyro.
BArrowsmith23
10 months ago
Without splitting hairs over wording, they opened up access to carbs etc, you still need just as many for a character your just not stuck behind them for weeks.
olddumper
10 months ago
If you are doing things right basically kyros are going to be your main pain point. I think LSBs are their answers to that crunch. I’ve probably received 4,000 to 5,000 kyro salvage in LSB that’s about half a years worth of really grinding kyros. Maximizing the kyros you get out of LSB is the main way to beat the crunch.
nottenst
Rising Traveler
10 months ago
"Olddumper;c-2454875" wrote:
If you are doing things right basically kyros are going to be your main pain point. I think LSBs are their answers to that crunch. I’ve probably received 4,000 to 5,000 kyro salvage in LSB that’s about half a years worth of really grinding kyros. Maximizing the kyros you get out of LSB is the main way to beat the crunch.

LSB? Are you talking about the Light Side Battle kyro node? Or Lightspeed Bundles? Or what?
MasterSeedy
New Ace
10 months ago
If you are playing in the 11m+ range, kryos are not a problem, relic material and especially signal data is. Kryos come from zeffo and tb and tw rewards.

Can confirm.

I do not need any kyros other than g12 finisher pieces. I currently only have about 500 kyros lying around, but g12 gear isn't infinite and you only need 100 kyros per character once you're where I'm at.

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In fact, I think in total I need 4k Kyros or so, and with constant farming that means that I have what I need for new marquees and new Conquest toons the moment that they drop + extra between new toons for a few g12 finishers. By June or July I expect that I will have all 7-star toons finished with Kyros and g12 finishers, and fewer than 20 toons still g12. Hard to say, but possibly fewer than 10. Every conquest I am always taking 2-3 old toons that I hadn't bothered taking to relic up to r1-r3 to make feats easier. Then there are the toons that are needed for TB special missions or Ops, then older toons that are useful in raids (ewoks and some of the Imp troopers this time)... there's always a reason to take a few more toons up, and though I can't predict exactly which order they'll be most useful, sooner or later -- certainly before the end of this year, absolutely everything I have at 7-star will be relic'd.

What you are constantly missing is signal data.

Huh. That's not where I'm at. I'm generally fine on SD and lower on high-end relic mats. But I think that high-end relic mats should be difficult to get. I'm fine with r8 being an effort.

Are you maybe still farming a couple of Cantina toons? I can go through shortages when they give us a Cantina-based toon or two, but they're temporary. I always restock SD faster than I can build up the higher-end relic mats. (CCBs too, I guess, but they're not that bad.)