Mandalorian S2:E1 Chat (SPOILERS)

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Is this where we put our wishlists from season 2 so far too?

1. Gamoran fighter
2. Marshal
3. Kyrat dragon raid

That's all I have so far. But ep 1 was pretty awesome

Marshall would be super cool. What faction would he fall into (in your opinion)?

I would for sure love the marshal. I really think that the mandalorian has given you at CG a great opportunity to make scoundrels a viable team in the game. I don’t know if the marshal is exactly a scoundrel. So I would love a mandalorian tag, similar to what you did with rouge one. Keep up the great work, I don’t hesitate to say that everything you’ve done with the mandalorian so far has been great.

The marshal isn't a mandalorian.

hes saying mandalorian tag, as in the show, not the creed, or people who lived on the planet.

Ok my bad. But we need a mandalorian tag for the creed too. And that will be confusing.

I dont really think we do, and I could see that leading to a lot of discontent in the community.

if we were only getting one, I would say the show over the creed, unless they have plans to bring a lot more of them in from the show. (I really want the armorer to come to the game). thats just me.

We have quite a few mandalorians in game. Having a tag for them to have a sub faction would be good.

1. Mando
2. Sabine
3. Canderous
4. Boba
5. Jango
6. Gar saxon
7. Super commando

With a couple of additions, you could have a ls and ds mando team. It gives some more options. I'm not sure how that would cause discontent.

Jango wasn’t a mandalorian he just wore the armour, as far as we know boba is the same I don’t see them changing that. So that leaves us with 5 from your list. I agree a mandalorian tag would be cool but they’d have to add new characters into the game for it to be viable.

Is there a better source about the Fetts that that one quote from TCW? Considering who says it, it's pretty far from reliable.

I think Feloni says something about it in a Clone wars Featurette. I believe in it he says that it was George Lucas he told him they were definitely not mandalorians and you can’t exactly get more reliable than him. Besides even though it was a passing comment Feloni rarely put anything into TCW that wasn’t intentional

It still boils down to hearsay. Jango was a foundling according to legends at least, being trained by Jaster. So if that is the case, Din isn't really a Mandalorian either. Plus the pacifist government disavowed Jango, not exactly hard proof, imho.

It’s not so much hearsay when the guy who created Star Wars was adamant that Jango was not a mandalorian

But it's also George Lucas, who has contradicted himself or changed things randomly are came up with things on the fly. I guess we will have to see how Mando deals with Boba, being a clone of Jango, he wouldn't be a Mandalorian either. So the waters could get murky either way in the show.

That is true. I’ll admit I’m not clued up on Bobas canon backstory between the last we see him in TCW and then again in Empire which is why I said as far as we know for him. But as it stands in Canon Jango is not a mandalorian so unless they do decide to change that which personally I’m not expecting my original point stands. I’m excited to see where they go with it in this new season and I’ll bet they’ve thought about the implications it would have with both Boba and Jango.

Absolutely. I have so many questions about the show now the Boba is back. The only way I see things working out to "bridge the gap" is that after the clone wars, but sometime before Empire, Boba found a group of Mandalorians and joined the creed. Obviously Jango didn't take the creed, as we see him without helmet and the same with Boba, until Empire and then the bucket doesn't come off.

I played Bounty Hunter on PS2 and that is when Jango became my favorite character, so I personally prefer the legends material in this case. Kinda makes sense to make a clone army from an individual who has personally take jedi down and from a race of people who fought the jedi.

Bounty Hunter was a great game! I can understand where you’re coming from in terms of the Legends material, a lot of it is better than what we currently have. Luke’s always been my favourite Character and him in Legends compared to what we got in episode 8 kinda hurts.

I also agree with your view on Boba, that’s definitely one way I could see them going with him in the new season so we will have to wait and see on that one. Either way I’m excited :)

I do agree Luke was very out of character in the new trilogy. Redeem Anakin, but lets kill my nephew on a whim? He is so much better than that.

I feel like this is just a missed point in that set of movies. he idolized the jedi so much, much like many do, and the movies don't necessarily do a good job of portraying the "human" side of them. they have faults, they have fears, not all of them can just be "zen" like Yoda.

Luke has faults and fails at times, he gives in to "his dark side", before realizing he was on that path. They are showing him dealing with the realization that "he is not perfect" and that no jedi are. The setting is so black and white, dealing in the grey is hard to understand in that scenario.

Great leaders/teachers fail many times over and only gain from it, it took luke a long time (and some Yoda wisdom) to realize that failing is a step along the way, not the end of a journey.

TCW did a good job of bringing this around and even trying to highlight it with Ashoka (a great over arching theme) and a few of the episodes dealing with the conflict of dark and light, but not resolving it as an absolute.

But its a hard fall from the "I can save the most evil guy in the galaxy, who murdered the jedi order, and a lot of other people" to "my nephew can become evil, so I better kill that kid." It is a complete 180 for the character and goes against the growth he had during the originals. His last test to become a jedi knight was to face Vader and kill him, finishing what Obi Wan couldn't do. The main point of ROTJ was that there was still something inside Vader that could be redeemed and saved. So just because there is a little darkness inside Ben doesn't mean that he should've been killed. Even the jedi have a little darkness inside, the very essence of being a mortal being. The jedi just try to suppress those parts.

Thats my point, you call it a complete 180, because you are looking at it as black and white. when in reality its all shades of grey. He had a moment of weakness where he glimpsed a path of the dark side and he allowed himself to be drawn down that path, only to catch himself before taking the "first step".

he didn't pull a 180, because he didn't kill him, or really try to kill him. He realized the misstep and tried to spot himself "in time", but his moment of weakness was witnessed by Kylo and pushed him down the path he was on. That shame and all that is what carried him down his path of seclusion, this again shows his humanity, and is just depicting an over arching view of something like depression that people feel, except on a more grand scale.

He was such an idealistic "kid" in the original trilogy, there is also a lot of time that passes that we dont see, so again, you measure 180 without seeing the degrees in-between.

also his last test was not to kill vader but to face him. the outcome was "unknown", as a jedi he chose to try and save him rather than kill him.

you are correct about Ben, and it is that lesson that Luke learned, all to late to save himself and Ben from the dark path they went down.

It has nothing to do with black and white vs grey. Luke was an adult and made a very poor, uncharacteristic choice. That choice to go stand over Ben with his lightsaber out wasn't a "Luke move."

Plus in Empire he leaves his training to go save Han, Leia and crew. Yoda and Obi Wan warn Luke about this choice. That is where he learns this lesson the he magically forgot in the sequel trilogy?

you only say that because you didn't see the many other years of him living before and around that time. who knows what other choices he made.

again measuring it as a 180, without seeing the degrees in-between.

did he learn a lesson there? did he learn that lesson? a lot of connections being made to keep Luke, this pristine LS dude, up until that moment. I'm just suggesting that maybe, he had a longer journey than the small depictions we are shown, and that on the path there are many instances where LS and DS converge and choices are made. Realizations happen and different choices are made..... but there are still consequences.