new lightspeed bundles???

"Valdarion;c-2442710" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442688" wrote:

"JanisWehner;c-2442671" wrote:
An easy solution, would've been to make these packs accessible only sub 3 to 4M GP. New players could catch up. Old players wouldn't get slapped for choosing Rey over another GL
Suppose you and and someone else decided for their next GL. Both of you were missing Rey and let's say LV. You went Rey the other one now has them both, leapfrogging you for no reason, but GCs stupidly to do things properly.
Just saw Xaereths account. He's almost 10M GP and just got 2 more GLs for 30$. That could not have been intended

Why should players with 4.1 M GP be punished

Why are you trying to gate Rey / SLKR to newer players and not all players?

The GLs are over 3 years old

Because if you reward veteran players with free GLs it unbalances the game. You understand that right? We're not talking about the toons. You're not just giving them the toons. You're giving them hard earned gear and relic mats worth literally thousands of dollars to try to replicate with gems. But only to players who didn't farm a Rey or SLKR right now... If player in my GAC bracket is given that you understand it breaks the integrity and balance right? They then can move those relic and gear mats to make other teams stronger cause they no longer have to go through the farm of SLKR/Rey

The GL's aren't free, there is a cost to acquisition. They are available to all players not just veterans. It doesn't break the integrity of the game or unbalance it as they are avaliable to all players at same cost. The game has always offered the ability to upgrade through paying for it.

It's a great deal for a player looking to improve. Improving should not be just limited to a select few.

They are not giting anything. People have to buy the packs.
Players: CG your packs are over priced, relic material packs are not worth what they are selling them for
Also players: These packs are to low in price they are breaking the balance. You are giving away relics that cost thousands of dollars.

Sigh....

"scuba;c-2442715" wrote:
They are not giting anything. People have to buy the packs.
Players: CG your packs are over priced, relic material packs are not worth what they are selling them for
Also players: These packs are to low in price they are breaking the balance. You are giving away relics that cost thousands of dollars.

Sigh....

yeah the complaints are people that are only looking at things from "me perspective"

"Wow my opponents don't have Rey nobody should get Rey"

"Valdarion;c-2442710" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442688" wrote:

"JanisWehner;c-2442671" wrote:
An easy solution, would've been to make these packs accessible only sub 3 to 4M GP. New players could catch up. Old players wouldn't get slapped for choosing Rey over another GL
Suppose you and and someone else decided for their next GL. Both of you were missing Rey and let's say LV. You went Rey the other one now has them both, leapfrogging you for no reason, but GCs stupidly to do things properly.
Just saw Xaereths account. He's almost 10M GP and just got 2 more GLs for 30$. That could not have been intended

Why should players with 4.1 M GP be punished

Why are you trying to gate Rey / SLKR to newer players and not all players?

The GLs are over 3 years old

Because if you reward veteran players with free GLs it unbalances the game. You understand that right? We're not talking about the toons. You're not just giving them the toons. You're giving them hard earned gear and relic mats worth literally thousands of dollars to try to replicate with gems. But only to players who didn't farm a Rey or SLKR right now... If player in my GAC bracket is given that you understand it breaks the integrity and balance right? They then can move those relic and gear mats to make other teams stronger cause they no longer have to go through the farm of SLKR/Rey

GLs aren't free
You could always buy stuff toons like Starkiller, Captian Drogan, Leia, Energy to farm Ultimate Materials For GLs as soon as possible etc

This "integrity and balance" you speak of is made up

There is no such thing as GAC balance built around not being able to buy anything, you can buy r8 / r9 materials too so that you can get advantage in GAC from the day R9 materials were introduced into the game

I have no idea what integrity of GAC even means

If players buy Rey / SLKR and get stronger through spending they move up the ladder by having higher skill rating and face other opponents that have the same level of investment or higher and you move down a few leagues as it always has been

You could always buy stuff to make your GAC teams better, this is no different than any other purchase in game

I think it is great to boost smaller guilds. My guild already bought a lot of those packs, there is enjoyment couse now they have toons geared anough to make full reliced teams, get better in conquest, tb ,gac and challanges. And close to first gl. And most important they could finally afford to buy something that will have positives on their gameplay. Some players can afford only 10 or 20 usd monthly so those.packs are great for them...
It should be like once in 2 or 3 months to get some older toons r5 for like 10 usd

"Valdarion;c-2442731" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442722" wrote:

"scuba;c-2442715" wrote:
They are not giting anything. People have to buy the packs.
Players: CG your packs are over priced, relic material packs are not worth what they are selling them for
Also players: These packs are to low in price they are breaking the balance. You are giving away relics that cost thousands of dollars.

Sigh....

yeah the complaints are people that are only looking at things from "me perspective"

"Wow my opponents don't have Rey nobody should get Rey"

No one is saying that. But it's an overly simplistic view to say this benefits all players because it's available to everyone, and that everyone should have Rey / SLKR and their full teams r5, because they've been out for 3 years now...

actually you are saying just that.

This can actually be considered good for balance. Some people at the top have fewer stuff to work on while getting more rewards. Because of this, they can accrue a surplus of those resources and are able to get the new stuff much faster, propelling them ever further ahead. This helps offset that by allowing people catch up in certain, older, areas of the game.

"Valdarion;c-2442738" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442727" wrote:

"Valdarion;c-2442710" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442688" wrote:

"JanisWehner;c-2442671" wrote:
An easy solution, would've been to make these packs accessible only sub 3 to 4M GP. New players could catch up. Old players wouldn't get slapped for choosing Rey over another GL
Suppose you and and someone else decided for their next GL. Both of you were missing Rey and let's say LV. You went Rey the other one now has them both, leapfrogging you for no reason, but GCs stupidly to do things properly.
Just saw Xaereths account. He's almost 10M GP and just got 2 more GLs for 30$. That could not have been intended

Why should players with 4.1 M GP be punished

Why are you trying to gate Rey / SLKR to newer players and not all players?

The GLs are over 3 years old

Because if you reward veteran players with free GLs it unbalances the game. You understand that right? We're not talking about the toons. You're not just giving them the toons. You're giving them hard earned gear and relic mats worth literally thousands of dollars to try to replicate with gems. But only to players who didn't farm a Rey or SLKR right now... If player in my GAC bracket is given that you understand it breaks the integrity and balance right? They then can move those relic and gear mats to make other teams stronger cause they no longer have to go through the farm of SLKR/Rey

GLs aren't free
You could always buy stuff toons like Starkiller, Captian Drogan, Leia, Energy to farm Ultimate Materials For GLs as soon as possible etc

This "integrity and balance" you speak of is made up

There is no such thing as GAC balance built around not being able to buy anything, you can buy r8 / r9 materials too so that you can get advantage in GAC from the day R9 materials were introduced into the game

I have no idea what integrity of GAC even means

If players buy Rey / SLKR and get stronger through spending they move up the ladder by having higher skill rating and face other opponents that have the same level of investment or higher and you move down a few leagues as it always has been

You could always buy stuff to make your GAC teams better, this is no different than any other purchase in game

You really believe these packs are "no different than any other purchase in the game"? These are unprecedented. I think Calvin Awesome did a vid putting them roughly at $4500 in gem equivalent.

And to clarify - the GL you get isn't "free". But basically once you buy their team packs, you're right there.

Sure players can buy relic mats, but for $10 CG is handing out entire relic'd teams for those that don't have them yet. And if you can't see any advantage in that, then I guess we can just have differing opinions. I don't begrudge anyone buying this pack, because I would, but I did think it would be easily acknowledge that no matter the degree, there is a competitive advantage being sold for a historic and ridiculously low price point.

So what if its unprecedented and CG is going for a microtransaction business model over macrotransaction

The packs are available to all players for the same price point

Also, the prices are very subjective person to person

50 bucks for Starkiller might be cheap to someone but expensive to someone else

Likewise, 10 bucks might be affordable to some and not to others, especially with foreign players where the conversation rates are too expensive for them

i hope this is the first of many micro transaction approach CG takes for players

"Valdarion;c-2442738" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442727" wrote:

"Valdarion;c-2442710" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2442688" wrote:

"JanisWehner;c-2442671" wrote:
An easy solution, would've been to make these packs accessible only sub 3 to 4M GP. New players could catch up. Old players wouldn't get slapped for choosing Rey over another GL
Suppose you and and someone else decided for their next GL. Both of you were missing Rey and let's say LV. You went Rey the other one now has them both, leapfrogging you for no reason, but GCs stupidly to do things properly.
Just saw Xaereths account. He's almost 10M GP and just got 2 more GLs for 30$. That could not have been intended

Why should players with 4.1 M GP be punished

Why are you trying to gate Rey / SLKR to newer players and not all players?

The GLs are over 3 years old

Because if you reward veteran players with free GLs it unbalances the game. You understand that right? We're not talking about the toons. You're not just giving them the toons. You're giving them hard earned gear and relic mats worth literally thousands of dollars to try to replicate with gems. But only to players who didn't farm a Rey or SLKR right now... If player in my GAC bracket is given that you understand it breaks the integrity and balance right? They then can move those relic and gear mats to make other teams stronger cause they no longer have to go through the farm of SLKR/Rey

GLs aren't free
You could always buy stuff toons like Starkiller, Captian Drogan, Leia, Energy to farm Ultimate Materials For GLs as soon as possible etc

This "integrity and balance" you speak of is made up

There is no such thing as GAC balance built around not being able to buy anything, you can buy r8 / r9 materials too so that you can get advantage in GAC from the day R9 materials were introduced into the game

I have no idea what integrity of GAC even means

If players buy Rey / SLKR and get stronger through spending they move up the ladder by having higher skill rating and face other opponents that have the same level of investment or higher and you move down a few leagues as it always has been

You could always buy stuff to make your GAC teams better, this is no different than any other purchase in game

You really believe these packs are "no different than any other purchase in the game"? These are unprecedented. I think Calvin Awesome did a vid putting them roughly at $4500 in gem equivalent.

And to clarify - the GL you get isn't "free". But basically once you buy their team packs, you're right there.

Sure players can buy relic mats, but for $10 CG is handing out entire relic'd teams for those that don't have them yet. And if you can't see any advantage in that, then I guess we can just have differing opinions. I don't begrudge anyone buying this pack, because I would, but I did think it would be easily acknowledge that no matter the degree, there is a competitive advantage being sold for a historic and ridiculously low price point.

yes there is a an advantage to buying the packs. So buy them or don't. its your call. But don't make an argument to remove that choice from the rest of us.