New TB info: MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR Complaints

"Jakdnels;c-2395361" wrote:

"Piatz1019;c-2395360" wrote:
The only reason I can think of for the minimums is to prevent cheating. Remember when CPit came out and a bunch of people solo'd it with only 4 R5 tooons in their roster? It's not enough of a reason to hard req all this, but I'm sure it's part of it. I think it's a big reason why all the new journey characters have hard relic requirements.

Seems the opposite should apply. If you leave no relic gated requirements and see someone completing with undergeared characters then you have probable cause to investigate cheating and permaban. This is just a paywall.

That would require effort on their part. Much easier to relic gate than to actually put effort into finding cheaters for once. Not that I think this has anything to do with it.

Don’t worry about the R8/R9 reqs…..that’s not the initial target!
Most upper end guilds will targeting P1 and P2 with an aim to break into P3 and get Reva shards.
So that’s mainly around bumping up R5s to R6 and eventually R7

"Shadowscream;c-2395363" wrote:
Don’t worry about the R8/R9 reqs…..that’s not the initial target!
Most upper end guilds will targeting P1 and P2 with an aim to break into P3 and get Reva shards.
So that’s mainly around bumping up R5s to R6 and eventually R7

"Don't worry about playing more than half of this brand new content! You may be able to play the rest of it in a couple years," is what you just said, in case you were wondering.

"TVF;c-2395320" wrote:

"Lumiya;c-2395285" wrote:

"Antario;c-2395280" wrote:

"scuba;c-2395270" wrote:
There is a difference between bei

"Antario;c-2395246" wrote:

"Tellithowitis;c-2395240" wrote:
The time scales for the average player to even access this are absurd, for the free to play this is essentially something we will most likely NEVER, be able to access. Like it would require multiple lifespans of play time for a relatively new player to get multiple teams to relic 9. Meanwhile the gear changes left gear 12 pieces and kyros out of the changes, as if 9 levels of relic farming is so easy once you get to level 13... Nobody is asking for the TB to be easy or to allow us to get to it day 1, I just don't think that making it so I access it when I have a full set of grey hair makes a lot of sense either

I don't think that will be the case (grey hair). If you consider the game acceleration as linear maybe. But based on past experience, it's more incremental (sometimes even exponential in certain areas). So it could well be that in one year from now relic 9 is no longer an absurd level to achieve.

I think we still don't have enough information about TB3 and the impact of the future gear and relic material distribution change. Judging TB3 based on the current state of the game might not do it justice. I'm willing to wait and see.

Really? It took them how long, 5 years to speed up the purple gear acquisition, and you are expecting them to speed up relic mats acquisition faster than that?
Maybe by r20 the r9 mats will be easier to obtain.

We will see about that.

We already did... they will double the prices to scrap for relics on purpose because they don't want to make it easier to relic characters. In a game where g12 is worth nothing anymore.

They did also double most of the gear sources for that scrap...

So? I know that and you know exactly what I meant. It means relics will not get easier and it will stay the same, so no speeding up or easing the relics.

"DarthGrff;c-2395158" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2395156" wrote:
Once again, this is for high end guilds. Why do people think they have to play the newest stuff asap?

I’m in an almost 400 mil guild, u can’t get that much higher end. (Well u can but not many guilds) Before I get hated on, do u have a full r9 squad? I doubt anyone here does and if so then not more than 1.

I absolutely love the fact you believe high end is just a 400 mil guild.. and that you are actually able to say it.. with a straight face lol

"Piatz1019;c-2395360" wrote:
The only reason I can think of for the minimums is to prevent cheating. Remember when CPit came out and a bunch of people solo'd it with only 4 R5 tooons in their roster? It's not enough of a reason to hard req all this, but I'm sure it's part of it. I think it's a big reason why all the new journey characters have hard relic requirements.

can't believe people keep using absurd requirements as justification for anti-cheating mechanism

Why not make all 6 phases R9 then?

Funny everyone complains about absurd reqs. But worst is that it looks like you need to remod your squads.

And NO I dont expect to get top use out of new TB just to get something to do. Best would be that wave 1 is pretty easy for relics wave 2 would need alot more and wave 3 even more. Currently LSGeo was first no go and get LsGL boom 0->4 - so something that you feel like advancing instead of on/off. Note that I still hate LS curve after few years P4 ships are 1star for example - after most get profu it might get tad better.

Back to modding: Games current remod tool is SO bad that this is even absurder.

Yes, I have 5 great mod sets. Even with the modset tool I need to clic char - go mods click mod tab - click minus to show advanced - click loadout - click tab (or default no click) - click set - click assing - click back - Click confirm
For 8-9 clicks for 5 sets for few (2-6 fights +1 to set them back) matches that's at least 80 - 300 clicks to swap mods around if it is needed

I want to play (if I can get past reqs) not swap mods. Or use third party tool for playing. When requirements are this rough I definitely expect that even right reliced squad needs mod swapping unless you have very very good sets everywhere.

I want use these mods at slot for pve and just use each once for pvp.

Only good thing is that these have just 2 waves (for this setting) - way better than fleet 1 wave which are 2nd stupidest only to top by 6 waves

LSgeo 20star move to this - rewards must be nice even if you just deploy. Man, when I'm deploying I feel like I play the game.

-D

Why make parts of a game inaccessible?
I'm fine with CG making it extremely hard, but we can't even play the missions? Just make more missions in each zone and then make *some* of them relic 8 or whatever.
This will destroy guilds and make people quit. Again.

Less time in game for better rewards is good news, especially during conquest.
I don’t know if this one is good or not but, relic 10 is probably around the corner and will make this easier.

Well they also expect guilds around 20 stars LSTB to do this thing.

This thing where you need minimum R5 squads just to start.