I've recently been trying to decide how to use my first zeta, which got me thinking about the Nightsisters as an alternative to one of the most popular (at least early on) solo teams out there in Zader teams.So what I'd like to know is, if anyone has tried to run a Nightsister team in the same fashion as a Zader Empire team. Here's what I've figured:zAsajj (zeta on lead) - Similar to Vader's with the TM removal and damage, but instead of granting DoTs, gives TM to anyone who falls below 50% health and gives 30% speed. Speed Down - Zader teams get this from Thrawn's fracture or RG's basic. NS team would get it from Spirit (Omega on basic).Tenacity Down - Zader teams are using TFP, while NS Zombie does the same with her basic, and it isn't contingent on landing a critical hit.TM Removal - Both teams are getting TM removal from all damage as a result of the zeta on the leadership. Empire teams are getting extra from Tarkin's AoE (every 4 turns), and NS Spirit is taking TM with her basic. TM Gain - Tarkin is gaining TM with his AoE. NS Initiate gains when her special lands a crit, Talia is giving 30% to everyone with her special (and 15% to herself), and NS Spirit gains TM with her basic.So unless I'm missing something, a NS team of zAsajj (L), Talia, Spirit, Zombie, and Acolyte should be able to solo the rancor maybe even more effectively than a Zader Empire team. Has anyone ever tried this, or am I missing something that these Zader teams are doing?

The zeta on Asajj is also very useful in the Sith Raid, so that's a bonus depending on what tier your guild is doing.

Well, I completed my first rancor solo with this team yesterday. It's not the team I suggested in the OP because I still don't have Acolyte or Zombie at 7*, but I'm glad to report it's definitely doable.This was the squad:Asajj (L) - zeta'd lead (zeta'd special too, but likely doesn't add much), G11, 175 speedTalzin - no zetas, G10, 197 speedDaka - no zetas, G10, 201 speedTalia - no zetas, G8, 171 speedSpirit - no zetas, G8, 179 speedAs you can see, they're a strong squad, but nothing unattainable for most players. I don't think it would've worked on auto simply because of how often I had to use Talia's Water of Life special to feed TM so I could get another round of TM removal when the rancor got over 50%.The guard phase is very easy with this group, and the only one where Asajj's Rampage zeta is actually useful. Still far from being necessary as it's an easy clear even without it.The Rancor managed one attack in phase 2 and 3, and 2 attacks in phase 4. I'll try again once I get my Acolyte farmed up (currently 5*) to see if it makes a difference. I suspect it will.

It has been done, the video was on here a week or two ago. You'd need some pile of speed on them I would imagine. Nice thing is zombie comes back after being gobbled up.

Yeah, I've only got a 4* zombie, so even though she's farmable now through a hard node, I'm a little ways off from trying it out myself (I have a 5* Spirit, but at least she's a relatively quick farm out of the cantina). When I do get around to trying it, I may have to use KRU or someone instead of zombie for the tenacity down).I did look through the threads a bit before starting another one, but I guess I didn't look far enough.Thanks!

If you search on YouTube "nightsister rancor" literally the first video that pops upYou're welcomehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7OyFtivX9l0

Nightsister Solo - Is it possible?

YKMisfit
Seasoned Novice
7 years ago
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1562276" wrote:
With enough potency you should be able to get the speed down and tenacity down to stick and you should be able to remove enough tm to solo it but it won't go as fast as a zader lead. Assjj gets her stacking offense from opponents or allies being defeated. You only have the two side minions in phase one then it's just the rancor so there's not much potential to build up assjj's damage. If the gamoran is able to summon more minions, you're letting him take too many turns and I wouldn't suggest purposely doing so. You may be able to get a little stacking offense from zombie dying but once again if the rancor is taking enough turns to kill anyone, you're doing it wrong. But with a fast enough zombie that taunts enough it may be possible. Zader on the other hand, can stack up dots without allowing the enemy to take a turn. But assjj is good for haat and the sith raid where there are more minions so her zeta isn't a waste. But I don't think it is a very efficient way to increase damage on hpit.

Yeah, the Rampage zeta wasn't done with this raid in mind. It definitely doesn't add much when nobody is dying (or atleast shouldn't be). Obviously the key zeta here is on Asajj's leadership.
DarkHelmet1138
7 years ago
"YKMisfit;c-1562719" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1562276" wrote:
With enough potency you should be able to get the speed down and tenacity down to stick and you should be able to remove enough tm to solo it but it won't go as fast as a zader lead. Assjj gets her stacking offense from opponents or allies being defeated. You only have the two side minions in phase one then it's just the rancor so there's not much potential to build up assjj's damage. If the gamoran is able to summon more minions, you're letting him take too many turns and I wouldn't suggest purposely doing so. You may be able to get a little stacking offense from zombie dying but once again if the rancor is taking enough turns to kill anyone, you're doing it wrong. But with a fast enough zombie that taunts enough it may be possible. Zader on the other hand, can stack up dots without allowing the enemy to take a turn. But assjj is good for haat and the sith raid where there are more minions so her zeta isn't a waste. But I don't think it is a very efficient way to increase damage on hpit.

Yeah, the Rampage zeta wasn't done with this raid in mind. It definitely doesn't add much when nobody is dying (or atleast shouldn't be). Obviously the key zeta here is on Asajj's leadership.

Without the rampage zeta being useful it just seems it would take awhile to get though it. I use Zader, cls, tfp, thrawn, and tarkin. That team can auto it in about 10 to 15 min and has multiple people with tenacity down and speed down where even of rng is bad you still get the debuffs applied by at least one character. I also don't see the redundancy in the nightsister kit other than tmr. I would think that would leave room for rng to cause the rancor to occasionally take enough turns to kill you.
scuba75
Rising Traveler
7 years ago
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1562833" wrote:
"YKMisfit;c-1562719" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1562276" wrote:
With enough potency you should be able to get the speed down and tenacity down to stick and you should be able to remove enough tm to solo it but it won't go as fast as a zader lead. Assjj gets her stacking offense from opponents or allies being defeated. You only have the two side minions in phase one then it's just the rancor so there's not much potential to build up assjj's damage. If the gamoran is able to summon more minions, you're letting him take too many turns and I wouldn't suggest purposely doing so. You may be able to get a little stacking offense from zombie dying but once again if the rancor is taking enough turns to kill anyone, you're doing it wrong. But with a fast enough zombie that taunts enough it may be possible. Zader on the other hand, can stack up dots without allowing the enemy to take a turn. But assjj is good for haat and the sith raid where there are more minions so her zeta isn't a waste. But I don't think it is a very efficient way to increase damage on hpit.

Yeah, the Rampage zeta wasn't done with this raid in mind. It definitely doesn't add much when nobody is dying (or atleast shouldn't be). Obviously the key zeta here is on Asajj's leadership.

Without the rampage zeta being useful it just seems it would take awhile to get though it. I use Zader, cls, tfp, thrawn, and tarkin. That team can auto it in about 10 to 15 min and has multiple people with tenacity down and speed down where even of rng is bad you still get the debuffs applied by at least one character. I also don't see the redundancy in the nightsister kit other than tmr. I would think that would leave room for rng to cause the rancor to occasionally take enough turns to kill you.

I was kinda skeptical about NS being able to run it also, after having run it now for over a month rancor may get 1 turn. The run takes about 15 mins on 2x auto p1 thru half of p4 (we have 15 solo hold time). NA double attack and spirit extra TMR are basic are enough to keep it going. I do use hermit Yoda as my 5th but I think you could run it with just 4 without issue.
DarkHelmet1138
7 years ago
My nightsisters need work so nit a good option for me. But I already have a team to solo rancor. Just need a haat solo team now. But I can definitely see getting ns. They are useful elsewhere in the game. I saw a video saying the can solo the nihilas portin of p4 of the hsith raid.

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