People quitting due to Revan?

"Ryzak620;c-1795579" wrote:
It's not a nasty spike. It's been ramping up to this for a long time. Revan is just the "straw the broke the camel's back" for a lot more people than the previous over-powered releases.

That depends on which type of data you are looking at. Many seems to think in booleans. Is there power creep or not? Some conclude since there's power creep and there will always be so it's not a problem.

Power creep is a climb and when you take the derivative of it, you get the rate of power creep. If you put that on a graph Revan is a spike.

As I said previously I've seen much worse, irreversable and unslowable power creep in CGs previous game. So I consider and hope this particular occasion an exception which will inform CG to put a leash on it. If it's not an exception but the new rule of the land and it will only get worse from here at some point I will RQ too.

"Ryzak620;c-1795510" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1795238" wrote:
I think those that think the game will die should just quit themselves and save all of us the trouble.

All of these people have valid and proven complaints about the state of the game. Your comment is inane. Frankly, you're blind to the serious game issues at hand

The state of the game has been the same since November 24, 2015.

"Austin9370;c-1793455" wrote:
Droideka is a Revan killer in mirror matches. Unfortunately not FTP at the moment.

How is it a mirror match if you run Droideka... Thus making it not a mirror match?

Keep the thread on topic folks, this is not the place to promote your guild

"No_Try;c-1794566" wrote:
HODA died long ago in terms of playerbase. It was already dead in the days this game was released. The main reason was incredible power creep (uncomparable to swgoh) and f2p having zero competetiveness (swgoh is a heaven in that sense too).

So....swgoh is nowhere near dying. It doesn't even look like they are declining if you check their revenue stream quarters.

Google play top grossing shows a drp from #11 to as low as #48. Today shows #28. Gear that was once farmable is only in raids or bought with gems. Drop rates are worse. Which is all designed to boost revenues. Whales have found other oceans, or they have gone free to play in answer to the power creep getting out of control. Revan should have boosted revenues but actually had the opposite effect since he is accessible by f2p players levelling the playing field, which has upset the pay to win set. The Tony Stark, pre Ironman pholosophy of selling to both sides and escalating the battle style of power creep has a shelf life and the focus is on their new game. Although they stopped hiring so it is not near launch I guess, since most studios ramp up to stay on target for launch.

"DuneSeaFarmer;c-1799464" wrote:

"No_Try;c-1794566" wrote:
HODA died long ago in terms of playerbase. It was already dead in the days this game was released. The main reason was incredible power creep (uncomparable to swgoh) and f2p having zero competetiveness (swgoh is a heaven in that sense too).

So....swgoh is nowhere near dying. It doesn't even look like they are declining if you check their revenue stream quarters.

Google play top grossing shows a drp from #11 to as low as #48. Today shows #28. Gear that was once farmable is only in raids or bought with gems. Drop rates are worse. Which is all designed to boost revenues. Whales have found other oceans, or they have gone free to play in answer to the power creep getting out of control. Revan should have boosted revenues but actually had the opposite effect since he is accessible by f2p players levelling the playing field, which has upset the pay to win set. The Tony Stark, pre Ironman pholosophy of selling to both sides and escalating the battle style of power creep has a shelf life and the focus is on their new game. Although they stopped hiring so it is not near launch I guess, since most studios ramp up to stay on target for launch.

Agreed, they need to bring back diversity for their own sake too.

"Kaliam;c-1792331" wrote:
I have a Revan team, and its still extremely boring in the arena. I'm so sick of fight mirror comps.
In my shard, in the top 50, 47 of them are JKR, Bastilla, Jolee, GMY, and either Ezra or GK for the 5th.....

I too am sick of fighting mirror teams. But the funny thing is we control what we use, what if we formed a union and stopped using Revan. Went back to pre Revan when there was balance.

We have that power, nobody can stop us except our own desire. The mirror match nightmare was given to us, it's our fault for continuing to use it.

"Vos_Landeck;c-1799994" wrote:
This game is almost 3.5 years old. People have always quit and other people have always started playing. That's a really long time to keep playing one game. There are lot of people out there who don't play the same game for several years....they get burnt out, they are more casual players, they get interested in something else, etc.

Interesting points. The accepted norm was mobile games do not really last past 2 years. SWGOH is past that, it's stumbled but it has the potential to rebound if handled correctly imho.

"Skyfrager59;c-1794623" wrote:
I agree that PVP is dead now. No revan = you loose, slower Revan = you loose. And it goes for both toon and ship PVP (No Hound Tooth = you loose...)
I no longer even try on PVP F2P. I've spent a bit but quickly realised that you have to spend all the time to stay ahead.Now I just enjoy collecting toons/ships and playing (not simming) the other mods like GW, TB, etc. I only do PvP for the daily quests and I start and withdraw immediately now if there are only Revan teams (99.9% of the time now).
It is still a good game without the PvP I think.

This isn't true, I can beat 300+ speed revans with my 270 speed revan (never get 20+ speed mods ever) due to how bad the AI is with targeting.

You can climb with nightsisters, revan or Treya - nightsisters are no easier than revan on the climb if they are modded right - tbh, there are nightsisters teams I pick revan to fight over. Not because of variety but because it's easier.

The issue is CLS/JTR vs Revan - but even they can win on offense (not always mind) the real issue is how easy they are to beat with Revan on the attack. Then coupled with the variety aspect

PVP has ruined more games than I can count. It's always out of balance. I was soooo excited when SWTOR said they would NOT have it, but just before launch they pasted it in. We hates it precious, we hates it..