Please fix the grand arena matchmaking

They obviously don't care much about improving the GA matchmaking. There are simple ways they could improve the matchmaking formula such as not including the bottom of the roster in matchmaking. Here we are 6 months later after numerous, constant complaints about the poor matchmaking formula and repeated suggestions for improving it and they haven't shown the slightest inclination in doing anything about it. All they've done in the 6 months since GA has been out is to remove ship GP when there are no ships in the GA, which is frankly something that should have been done from the start.

so, because that person was smarter they should be penalized? I mean I get that it's annoying but you're complaining that someone with a better lineup is gonna get better rewards than you? there is nothing to fix.

"Vos_Landeck;c-1856086" wrote:
They obviously don't care much about improving the GA matchmaking.

As long as we all fight for the exact same rewards, the current system is fair. Players, who built a strong roster (strong for GA) have an advantage, which is fine. There really isn't anything to fix.
However, you can look forward to the tiered GA with tiers based on previous performance and tiered rewards.

"imageryking;d-203485" wrote:

Please do something to fix the grand arena matchmaking. This grand arena the toons gp is the basis for match up, @1.7m for my group of 8. The problem is there are 6 members with rosters that while they total 1.7m each they aren't very strong. My roster, while not the greatest, is adequate and competitive. The 8th member has a roster that includes amongst others 7☆ gr12 JKR, Darth R, malek, traya, chewbacca, 3po, RJT, CLS, raid han and on and on!! How is this supposed to be competative when one player has a super killer elite roster, one player has a okay roster and 6 are rosters that seem only there to fill out the grouping of 8!

Preparing for the actual GA by building a strong roster in between GAs is part of the competition. This match-up IS competitive.

"Babyhewy;c-1856087" wrote:
so, because that person was smarter they should be penalized? I mean I get that it's annoying but you're complaining that someone with a better lineup is gonna get better rewards than you? there is nothing to fix.

@Babyhewy gets it.

Not to add to the choir of "they should have known since launch GA would be coming one day and prepared accordingly", but I'm always glad when there is only one GA opponent with a vastly superior roster. That means I can win at least 2 rounds, and so far I've always won at least 2 out of 3 despite my bloated GP.

Still, it would be nice if total playtime / account age were added to the matchmaking equation. A much older account typically has more zetas and vastly better mods, both of which is not adequately reflected by the GP metric.

"Waqui;c-1856116" wrote:
Players, who built a strong roster (strong for GA) have an advantage, which is fine. There really isn't anything to fix.

"Krjstoff;c-1856529" wrote:
There is nothing wrong with matchmaking.

The entire gamemode is based on having the strongest possible roster for the GP you have.

So, it's perfectly fair that somebody who focused intensely on being efficient with his GP have an advantage, and another player who has just being horsing around and "having fun" with the game (I never understood why being competitive and efficient couldn't be fun), instead has a clear disadvantage.

I'm assuming you are newer players, but the way GA currently works is actually not fair, especially for those of us who have been playing since launch.

Here's the thing, before GA existed, there was a little game mode called Territory Battles. Territory Battles was billed by EA as a game mode where "every upgrade counts". As a result, many of us who have been here for a long time leveled trash toons (CUP, Ughnaught, etc) to 85 and took them to gear 8. This was done specifically done to help our guilds with platoons and deployments for that particular game mode. Further, don't give me some B.S. about "building your roster smart", because leveling the trash was done (at the time) without an opportunity cost. Credits at end game have been plentiful for long periods of time (I have had 300M banked forever), and gear below level 8 is plentiful and not a roadblock.

So let's now illustrate why the current GA mode is not fair.

I am in the 4.9M GA bracket. I have 90 g12. My last GA, I had to play a new Kraken in the finals. Based on his swgoh.gg account, it looks like he started mid last year. This means, he built his roster with the knowledge that he would have an advantage in GA (if it was his preferred game mode) if he did not level or gear trash toons for TB. Basically, he could prioritize the individual game mode over the collective game mode. He was given the opportunity to make a decision that I was never given.

This Kraken had 140 g12 and the rest of his roster was sitting unleveled, ungeared, and unstarred. He had the luxury to put most of his top meta teams on defense secure in the knowledge that he could throw additional solid toons at any of my teams to whittle them down and clear them if he failed his first attempt. This is pretty clearly an unearned advantage given to him by his game start date.

"Darth_DeVito;c-1856530" wrote:
Not to add to the choir of "they should have known since launch GA would be coming one day and prepared accordingly", but I'm always glad when there is only one GA opponent with a vastly superior roster. That means I can win at least 2 rounds, and so far I've always won at least 2 out of 3 despite my bloated GP.

Still, it would be nice if total playtime / account age were added to the matchmaking equation. A much older account typically has more zetas and vastly better mods, both of which is not adequately reflected by the GP metric.

This. I have never lost more than 1 match, despite being a launch player (i.e. have a major bloating problem...ermm...with my roster.)

Not too many newer players have a highly leveled or geared Jawas (for an event that no longer exists) - or IG86 for a droid team that is no longer viable, or strong Lumi, or g9 Eeth Koth (had to get GMY back in the day) or a zQGJ, or 7* Lobot or Lando, etc., etc.

But it's also worth noting that due to power creep and kits, those older characters are even weaker than their gear level, zetas, mods might be representing in GP. As an extreme example, which would you rather have - a 7* g9 Jedi Knight Revan with 1 zeta? Or a 7* g9 QGJ with one zeta? And QGJ's zeta was one of the best at the time....

All of that said, GA is solid. It needs some tweaking - but what about this game is perfect?

"Nikoms565;c-1856608" wrote:
All of that said, GA is solid. It needs some tweaking - but what about this game is perfect?

Positive Nikoms is my favorite Nikoms.

"Waqui;c-1856635" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1856608" wrote:




Not too many newer players have a highly leveled or geared Jawas (for an event that no longer exists) - or IG86 for a droid team that is no longer viable, or strong Lumi, or g9 Eeth Koth (had to get GMY back in the day) or a zQGJ, or 7* Lobot or Lando, etc., etc.

All those characters probably helped you win a lot of gear, mods etc. which helped you build your roster to what it is now. I know my jawa helped me gain crit dmg. mods, my IG-86 helped me in the early days (months) of the AAT raid, Lumi helped me in GW, Eeth Koth helped me unlock GMY, QGJ and Lando helped me gain a lot of crystals in arena. I don't regret having those in my roster now. I still enjoy the gear and what not they helped me win.

What is your point? The fact that those toons helped you at one time and that you enjoyed them is irrelevant to this topic.

They now exist as bloat in your roster that ends up falsely stating your overall roster power and result in getting you matched against newer people who never had to level them.