Please do something to fix the grand arena matchmaking. This grand arena the toons gp is the basis for match up, @1.7m for my group of 8. The problem is there are 6 members with rosters that while they total 1.7m each they aren't very strong. My roster, while not the greatest, is adequate and competitive. The 8th member has a roster that includes amongst others 7☆ gr12 JKR, Darth R, malek, traya, chewbacca, 3po, RJT, CLS, raid han and on and on!! How is this supposed to be competative when one player has a super killer elite roster, one player has a okay roster and 6 are rosters that seem only there to fill out the grouping of 8! May as well just do one battle as opposed to this sham of a 8 person tournament!

They obviously don't care much about improving the GA matchmaking. There are simple ways they could improve the matchmaking formula such as not including the bottom of the roster in matchmaking. Here we are 6 months later after numerous, constant complaints about the poor matchmaking formula and repeated suggestions for improving it and they haven't shown the slightest inclination in doing anything about it. All they've done in the 6 months since GA has been out is to remove ship GP when there are no ships in the GA, which is frankly something that should have been done from the start.

so, because that person was smarter they should be penalized? I mean I get that it's annoying but you're complaining that someone with a better lineup is gonna get better rewards than you? there is nothing to fix.

"Vos_Landeck;c-1856086" wrote:They obviously don't care much about improving the GA matchmaking. As long as we all fight for the exact same rewards, the current system is fair. Players, who built a strong roster (strong for GA) have an advantage, which is fine. There really isn't anything to fix.However, you can look forward to the tiered GA with tiers based on previous performance and tiered rewards.

"imageryking;d-203485" wrote:Please do something to fix the grand arena matchmaking. This grand arena the toons gp is the basis for match up, @1.7m for my group of 8. The problem is there are 6 members with rosters that while they total 1.7m each they aren't very strong. My roster, while not the greatest, is adequate and competitive. The 8th member has a roster that includes amongst others 7☆ gr12 JKR, Darth R, malek, traya, chewbacca, 3po, RJT, CLS, raid han and on and on!! How is this supposed to be competative when one player has a super killer elite roster, one player has a okay roster and 6 are rosters that seem only there to fill out the grouping of 8! Preparing for the actual GA by building a strong roster in between GAs is part of the competition. This match-up IS competitive.

"Babyhewy;c-1856087" wrote:so, because that person was smarter they should be penalized? I mean I get that it's annoying but you're complaining that someone with a better lineup is gonna get better rewards than you? there is nothing to fix.@Babyhewy gets it.

Please fix the grand arena matchmaking

cannonfodder_iv
New Spectator
6 years ago
Start date should be definitely be taken into account. The current algorithm actually penalizes whales a little bit, since many of them buy gear and haven't had the time to build the mod depth required to compete.

I disagree a little bit with the bloated GP argument - there are only so many viable teams and only so much GP that's required. We need between 60 and 72 toons depending on GP in this GA. Even at the latter, assuming 20k per quality toon, you're looking at 1.54M of lean GP, which leaves a lot of wiggle room for bloat.

Matchmaking at lower GP levels is especially fraught, since there's much more variability in roster composition.

Fair doesn't mean competitive. I would love it if they gave you an option to be matched on GP or on a "roster quality". If it's the latter, then you're prizes are based on the quality of your roster. After all, why should a "low quality" 2.8M GP roster get the same prizes for winning against a lower level of competition probably at a lower GP than a "high quality" 2.8M GP lean roster should get?
uncle_q86
6 years ago
Simple: Stop playing like crap and you'll improve.
Krjst0ff
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
"7AnimalMother;c-1856577" wrote:
I'm assuming you are newer players...

Don't know how you define new, but I've been here since march 2017 - just a couple of days late to the Nihilus party. Pushing 4M GP, so I wouldn't define my self as a noob.

"7AnimalMother;c-1856577" wrote:
My last GA, I had to play a new Kraken in the finals.

Would you say this has occured often? Or just a few times? I guess this is the risk of being close to 5M GP.

"7AnimalMother;c-1856577" wrote:
He was given the opportunity to make a decision that I was never given.

Totally see your point. But given the large variety of game modes, and the hopeful addition of more, this will be a returning issue.

Every single new game mode, will give new players an advantage to focus on that.

In GA these "newer" players excist in all GP ranges and all of them may very well have the upper hand on the rosters along. But they wont' have as much experience with the game as more seasoned players like yourself. They haven't acquired memorized knowledge of many, many character kits and how they work yet, and that should play to your advantage.

"7AnimalMother;c-1856577" wrote:
He had the luxury to put most of his top meta teams on defense secure in the knowledge that he could throw additional solid toons at any of my teams to whittle them down and clear them if he failed his first attempt.

So, you get to be more efficient. If he just throws countless numbers of teams at your defenses, you win by being more efficient and having a better understanding on counters, kit interaction and modding.

Adapt and overcome...
Waquira
6 years ago
"Nikoms565;c-1856608" wrote:
"Darth_DeVito;c-1856530" wrote:
Not to add to the choir of "they should have known since launch GA would be coming one day and prepared accordingly", but I'm always glad when there is only one GA opponent with a vastly superior roster. That means I can win at least 2 rounds, and so far I've always won at least 2 out of 3 despite my bloated GP.

Still, it would be nice if total playtime / account age were added to the matchmaking equation. A much older account typically has more zetas and vastly better mods, both of which is not adequately reflected by the GP metric.

This. I have never lost more than 1 match, despite being a launch player (i.e. have a major bloating problem...ermm...with my roster.)

Not too many newer players have a highly leveled or geared Jawas (for an event that no longer exists) - or IG86 for a droid team that is no longer viable, or strong Lumi, or g9 Eeth Koth (had to get GMY back in the day) or a zQGJ, or 7* Lobot or Lando, etc., etc.

All those characters probably helped you win a lot of gear, mods etc. which helped you build your roster to what it is now. I know my IG-86 helped me in the early days (months) of the AAT raid, Lumi helped me in GW, Eeth Koth helped me unlock GMY, QGJ and Lando helped me gain a lot of crystals in arena. I don't regret having those in my roster now. I still enjoy the gear and what not they helped me win.

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tvsfrink
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1857439" wrote:
I know my IG-86 helped me in the early days (months) of the AAT raid,
....

Nope, not possible.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/190063/ig-86-why
Waquira
6 years ago
"TVF;c-1857443" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1857439" wrote:
I know my IG-86 helped me in the early days (months) of the AAT raid,
....

Nope, not possible.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/190063/ig-86-why

A thread from december '18? Completely irrelevant. You do know that 'the early days (months) of the AAT raid' were more than 2 years earlier, right?!
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1857485" wrote:
"TVF;c-1857443" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1857439" wrote:
I know my IG-86 helped me in the early days (months) of the AAT raid,
....

Nope, not possible.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/190063/ig-86-why

A thread from december '18? Completely irrelevant. You do know that 'the early days (months) of the AAT raid' were more than 2 years earlier, right?!

(pssst.....joke)
kello_511
6 years ago
There is no point in complaining about matchmaking. It’s a moot point when the game mode can’t even lock in mods properly.
tvsfrink
6 years ago
"7AnimalMother;c-1857658" wrote:
pigeon chess

Hey I learned something new today lol.
nottenst
Seasoned Traveler
6 years ago
"cannonfodder_iv;c-1856698" wrote:
Start date should be definitely be taken into account.
In the group of 8 I'm currently battling, there is one player with 48 G12 toons while everyone else has about 12 to 15. As a measure of time he has 7640 GW battles won. I have 5562. Others have 7379, 6719, 5680, 6299, 7327, and 6852. So, maybe the 7379 and 7327 belong there, but I am definitely fighting above my weight class.