Please improve Darth Vader

"BrianBuchanans;803221" wrote:

"ElleMadara;803123" wrote:

"BrianBuchanans;802040" wrote:
One of my guild mates has been sitting in top 5 for weeks now using an Empire team that includes Vader. I think the unfortunate thing is that what you are asking for invariably comes back to "but the Rebels can beat me!"

So what you're saying, then, is that because you like your character better he should be the best character. You're asking the devs to stomp on one group of players because you want them to.

There are ways around every team comp. Can't deal with fast STHan? Speed up your TFP and drop buff immunity. Getting shot down by Wiggs? Beef up your Shoretrooper. Lando got your panties in a bundle? Focus him down before his second turn, or use critical immunity to your advantage. Pre-taunters? Kenobi buffs? QGJ lead? Tenacity Up? B2 is beautiful for dealing with all of those things.

The key here is that all characters need to have counters. Rebels teams are beating you. Find ways to beat them. Those ways already exist, and a lot of them include Vader. Making him another one-size-fits-all solution isn't the solution.

Vader's cool. I'm working on Vader, too. But powering him up when some of the most powerful comps in the game include him seems unreasonable.

NO, Vader should be the Best, l am not asking for "Jawa should be the strongest character in the game, or Nightsister initiate should be the stronger character of the game", l am talking about DARTH VADER, take a look at the game's logo, look at the loading screen, take a look at how hard it is to promote him to 7*, it is not only that l like him, he literally deserves to be a LOT STRONGER, SPECIALLY HE

He's really strong. Very top of the meta strong when used right. But by that same line of argumentation, Vader should always be able to beat every toon in the game. Doesn't make for very interesting team comps.

Empire's single weakness is that it's reliant on debuffs. You can absorb Wiggs. You can outspeed STHan. You can crit immunity Lando into the ground. Vader's Zeta means that cleansers are totally irrelevant, especially now that you can pop Vader AND Boba in to take advantage of the debuffs on top of TFP's damage and TM bonus.

Rebels have quite a few weaknesses. Being extremely prone to debuffs is one of them. Y'all keep saying "Vader needs x, Vader needs y, Vader needs z" but the goal is not to have a completely flawless toon. It's to make more toons competitive—which Vader already is.

"BielCaprinho;803737" wrote:
Synergy with Palp now!

"Luuke;803819" wrote:
Here's your Vader/Emperor synergy. It's called "Thy Bidding" and if you have Vader you can send him to do unavoidable 2x-3x damage. But, the catch is a 2% change that he attacks you instead. When Jedi Luke (some day) gets released to be playable and is on the opposing team, that chance boosts to 5%.

"ElleMadara;803836" wrote:
Wut? Are you serious? Or this is some kind of joke

"BrianBuchanans;803855" wrote:

"ElleMadara;803722" wrote:

"BrianBuchanans;803221" wrote:

"ElleMadara;803123" wrote:

"BrianBuchanans;802040" wrote:
One of my guild mates has been sitting in top 5 for weeks now using an Empire team that includes Vader. I think the unfortunate thing is that what you are asking for invariably comes back to "but the Rebels can beat me!"

So what you're saying, then, is that because you like your character better he should be the best character. You're asking the devs to stomp on one group of players because you want them to.

There are ways around every team comp. Can't deal with fast STHan? Speed up your TFP and drop buff immunity. Getting shot down by Wiggs? Beef up your Shoretrooper. Lando got your panties in a bundle? Focus him down before his second turn, or use critical immunity to your advantage. Pre-taunters? Kenobi buffs? QGJ lead? Tenacity Up? B2 is beautiful for dealing with all of those things.

The key here is that all characters need to have counters. Rebels teams are beating you. Find ways to beat them. Those ways already exist, and a lot of them include Vader. Making him another one-size-fits-all solution isn't the solution.

Vader's cool. I'm working on Vader, too. But powering him up when some of the most powerful comps in the game include him seems unreasonable.

NO, Vader should be the Best, l am not asking for "Jawa should be the strongest character in the game, or Nightsister initiate should be the stronger character of the game", l am talking about DARTH VADER, take a look at the game's logo, look at the loading screen, take a look at how hard it is to promote him to 7*, it is not only that l like him, he literally deserves to be a LOT STRONGER, SPECIALLY HE

He's really strong. Very top of the meta strong when used right. But by that same line of argumentation, Vader should always be able to beat every toon in the game. Doesn't make for very interesting team comps.

Empire's single weakness is that it's reliant on debuffs. You can absorb Wiggs. You can outspeed STHan. You can crit immunity Lando into the ground. Vader's Zeta means that cleansers are totally irrelevant, especially now that you can pop Vader AND Boba in to take advantage of the debuffs on top of TFP's damage and TM bonus.

Rebels have quite a few weaknesses. Being extremely prone to debuffs is one of them. Y'all keep saying "Vader needs x, Vader needs y, Vader needs z" but the goal is not to have a completely flawless toon. It's to make more toons competitive—which Vader already is.

REBELS are capable of beat ANY character of the game, and they are just humans with blasters (weakilngs in the movies)

by that logic, let's make it so that Mace can never beat Palpatine ever, because in the movies Palpatine won so he can't beat him in the game!! In fact, nobody can kill Luke until he possibly dies in a later episode!