Hi everyone! I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very...
Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend?
blend but leaning towards "bad".
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad?
Good: adds a lot of new achievements/goals.
Bad: pay-to-play. I spent 12k crystals on the "1 time purchase", spent some time clearing through achievements, and then realized I can't even claim them. This doesn't "entice" me to purchase, it depresses and makes me NOT want to bother playing or putting effort into it.
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update?
Yes.
Why or why not?
I know I'm not a big spender but the new features, requirements around purchasing shards, requirements around purchasing the pass (which I would already say is pricey)...I know I've not been the target audience for most packs since I started playing in 2017, but at least then I could just purchase something now and then and still feel like I could compete. With these new changes it feels like if I am not able/willing to buy the new marquee characters AND pay for the pass I might as well just stop playing.
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates?
Conquests pass system I think was a better balance of pay vs free - as a minimal "pay" player I was able to experience the content and get most of the rewards - just slower. I could max crate or gold crate the first 3, and purchase shards with conquest energy, and get the secondary shards in the next conquest round and still unlock the characters within a competitive time period.
I appreciate your input—very detailed. The fact that you paid 12k in crystals and can’t collect your rewards—what the heck? That’s even more ludicrous than I at first thought. If I’m understanding that screen shot correctly, is it saying you need to have a certain amount of shards in order to collect the rewards on the achievement you already completed?
I agree with you—Conquest is definitely a better balance of free-to-play and pay-to-play. This update was allegedly made for free-to-play but it certainly doesn’t feel that way.
In retrospect though, I don’t recall if they ever specified that this update was to help free-to-play players achieve their goals or to hinder free-to-play players. It may actually be the aim to drive them away.
A little clarity....12K crystals was for 13 packs of Huyang shards, no?
So, between the free 55 and say getting 100 from the pack, that's 155. The 12k was the price for 100 shards, not to gain full access to the character tree. There is like 7 tiers of rewards under the character path for Huyang and completing feats gets you completions of different things. Some require more than 155 shards to collect.
Is that a problem? Yes. Absolutely, but the 12K was for shards not total tree access. The huge problem there is you are forced to spend to complete the tree. If you get lucky and pull enough shards in the pack to 7 star, you can do it. But short of that, cash is the the only way to do, which is wrong. Dangling those other achievements in your face showing how many more shards you need to go is just crass advertising. Look how close! spend spend spend to get that next level. It is literally up there with free drinks, extra oxygen, and no windows in casino's to keep the players gambling.
WIth a game so far into profit, it's a massively pathetic as well to stoop this low.
I'm not convinced that Conquest wont somehow tie in to the Episode pass as well, further nerfing our ability to complete sections of the game we used to be able to. Time will tell, but I'm not holding my breath that there isn't something like "Win 50 battles with an active Episode Pass" or "Win 50 battles with a 7 star Huyang present"
At this point I'm surprised EA didn't add a shop pass where you have to pay $20 a month to access the shop! Any love I had left for this game has long gone, I'm just hanging around to watch it burn. I couldn't care less about my 12m GP account any more.
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I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very...","body@stringLength":"2221","rawBody":"
Hi everyone!
I’ve been a Galaxy of Heroes player for almost two years now, playing consistently every day. I’m a grind account—typically not caring how long it takes me to grow, generally being very patient about my progress, although I do still occasionally spring for lower-cost Hyperdrive bundles that propel me towards my goal. This is my first time posting on the forums, because EA and Disney have just ticked me off that much with these latest updates which, to me, smacks of corporate greed trying to wring more money out of people.
I’m curious about your thoughts—what are the pros of this latest update, what are the cons of this latest update, how does this update contrast with previous updates that perhaps also felt like money-grabs, etc.
I encourage you to leave a comment and answer the following:
Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend?
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad?
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update?
Why or why not?
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates?
I appreciate you all. This game has become a part of my daily routine, but I feel as though it’s now going to take me three times as long to achieve anything. I almost deleted it this morning, but thought I’d check in with the community first to see your impressions. Thanks so much in advance.
UPDATE: , here’s a solid start to a growing, comprehensive list of all the issues introduced with these latest updates. I really hope you take these frustrations seriously and consider some of the solutions that have been suggested. If you’re actually trying to create a more positive, free-to-play experience as you’ve suggested, you are not succeeding with this latest update. You don’t have to sacrifice free-to-play options that allow us to grow in order to provide pay-to-play products.
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I appreciate your input—very detailed. The fact that you paid 12k in crystals and can’t collect your rewards—what the heck? That’s even more ludicrous than I at first thought. If I’m understanding that screen shot correctly, is it saying you need to have a certain amount of shards in order to collect the rewards on the achievement you already completed?
I agree with you—Conquest is definitely a better balance of free-to-play and pay-to-play. This update was allegedly made for free-to-play but it certainly doesn’t feel that way.
In retrospect though, I don’t recall if they ever specified that this update was to help free-to-play players achieve their goals or to hinder free-to-play players. It may actually be the aim to drive them away.
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I appreciate your input—very detailed. The fact that you paid 12k in crystals and can’t collect your rewards—what the heck? That’s even more ludicrous than I at first thought. If I’m understanding that screen shot correctly, is it saying you need to have a certain amount of shards in order to collect the rewards on the achievement you already completed?
I agree with you—Conquest is definitely a better balance of free-to-play and pay-to-play. This update was allegedly made for free-to-play but it certainly doesn’t feel that way.
In retrospect though, I don’t recall if they ever specified that this update was to help free-to-play players achieve their goals or to hinder free-to-play players. It may actually be the aim to drive them away.
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Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend?
blend but leaning towards \"bad\".
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad?
Good: adds a lot of new achievements/goals.
Bad: pay-to-play. I spent 12k crystals on the \"1 time purchase\", spent some time clearing through achievements, and then realized I can't even claim them. This doesn't \"entice\" me to purchase, it depresses and makes me NOT want to bother playing or putting effort into it.
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update?
Yes.
Why or why not?
I know I'm not a big spender but the new features, requirements around purchasing shards, requirements around purchasing the pass (which I would already say is pricey)...I know I've not been the target audience for most packs since I started playing in 2017, but at least then I could just purchase something now and then and still feel like I could compete. With these new changes it feels like if I am not able/willing to buy the new marquee characters AND pay for the pass I might as well just stop playing.
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates?
Conquests pass system I think was a better balance of pay vs free - as a minimal \"pay\" player I was able to experience the content and get most of the rewards - just slower. I could max crate or gold crate the first 3, and purchase shards with conquest energy, and get the secondary shards in the next conquest round and still unlock the characters within a competitive time period.
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Do you think this update is good overall, bad overall, or a blend?
blend but leaning towards \"bad\".
For you, what aspects are good and what aspects are bad?
Good: adds a lot of new achievements/goals.
Bad: pay-to-play. I spent 12k crystals on the \"1 time purchase\", spent some time clearing through achievements, and then realized I can't even claim them. This doesn't \"entice\" me to purchase, it depresses and makes me NOT want to bother playing or putting effort into it.
Are you considering leaving this game due to this update?
Yes.
Why or why not?
I know I'm not a big spender but the new features, requirements around purchasing shards, requirements around purchasing the pass (which I would already say is pricey)...I know I've not been the target audience for most packs since I started playing in 2017, but at least then I could just purchase something now and then and still feel like I could compete. With these new changes it feels like if I am not able/willing to buy the new marquee characters AND pay for the pass I might as well just stop playing.
Any additional thoughts or comparisons with previous updates?
Conquests pass system I think was a better balance of pay vs free - as a minimal \"pay\" player I was able to experience the content and get most of the rewards - just slower. I could max crate or gold crate the first 3, and purchase shards with conquest energy, and get the secondary shards in the next conquest round and still unlock the characters within a competitive time period.
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A little clarity....12K crystals was for 13 packs of Huyang shards, no?
So, between the free 55 and say getting 100 from the pack, that's 155. The 12k was the price for 100 shards, not to gain full access to the character tree. There is like 7 tiers of rewards under the character path for Huyang and completing feats gets you completions of different things. Some require more than 155 shards to collect.
Is that a problem? Yes. Absolutely, but the 12K was for shards not total tree access. The huge problem there is you are forced to spend to complete the tree. If you get lucky and pull enough shards in the pack to 7 star, you can do it. But short of that, cash is the the only way to do, which is wrong. Dangling those other achievements in your face showing how many more shards you need to go is just crass advertising. Look how close! spend spend spend to get that next level. It is literally up there with free drinks, extra oxygen, and no windows in casino's to keep the players gambling.
WIth a game so far into profit, it's a massively pathetic as well to stoop this low.
A little clarity....12K crystals was for 13 packs of Huyang shards, no?
So, between the free 55 and say getting 100 from the pack, that's 155. The 12k was the price for 100 shards, not to gain full access to the character tree. There is like 7 tiers of rewards under the character path for Huyang and completing feats gets you completions of different things. Some require more than 155 shards to collect.
Is that a problem? Yes. Absolutely, but the 12K was for shards not total tree access. The huge problem there is you are forced to spend to complete the tree. If you get lucky and pull enough shards in the pack to 7 star, you can do it. But short of that, cash is the the only way to do, which is wrong. Dangling those other achievements in your face showing how many more shards you need to go is just crass advertising. Look how close! spend spend spend to get that next level. It is literally up there with free drinks, extra oxygen, and no windows in casino's to keep the players gambling.
WIth a game so far into profit, it's a massively pathetic as well to stoop this low.
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I'm not convinced that Conquest wont somehow tie in to the Episode pass as well, further nerfing our ability to complete sections of the game we used to be able to. Time will tell, but I'm not holding my breath that there isn't something like \"Win 50 battles with an active Episode Pass\" or \"Win 50 battles with a 7 star Huyang present\"
At this point I'm surprised EA didn't add a shop pass where you have to pay $20 a month to access the shop! Any love I had left for this game has long gone, I'm just hanging around to watch it burn. I couldn't care less about my 12m GP account any more.
I'm not convinced that Conquest wont somehow tie in to the Episode pass as well, further nerfing our ability to complete sections of the game we used to be able to. Time will tell, but I'm not holding my breath that there isn't something like \"Win 50 battles with an active Episode Pass\" or \"Win 50 battles with a 7 star Huyang present\"
At this point I'm surprised EA didn't add a shop pass where you have to pay $20 a month to access the shop! Any love I had left for this game has long gone, I'm just hanging around to watch it burn. I couldn't care less about my 12m GP account any more.
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