Proving Grounds

"Wed_Santa;c-2363743" wrote:
Have they? I’ve been playing the game on and off since November 2015 and I can’t recall a mode or event being gated arbitrarily by GP level. Player level - yes; specific character star and gear levels - yes but GP has been used to seed or spread players across different divisions or levels but not to bar them from participating at all. But perhaps I’ve missed that. Also those have tended to be chunky events and not just some little old catch up on shards event. It feels disproportionate.

Geonosis TB, certain legendary characters, every GL, Conquest. All gated behind either GP and/or gear requirements.

"HKFactory;c-2363733" wrote:

"Antario;c-2363657" wrote:

"HKFactory;c-2363653" wrote:
I’m using a relic level 7 supreme leader Kylo against tier two and I still can’t beat maul.

Add Daka & Zombie to the line up to draw fire. And Wat if you want to feel extra safe. Then it's a cake walk.

I don’t have those characters at relic levels, and I only have a hand full of characters that are.

It's ironic how both your Wat and Armorer are unlocked but on g1 lvl 1.

"Salatious_Scrum;c-2363745" wrote:

"Wed_Santa;c-2363743" wrote:
Have they? I’ve been playing the game on and off since November 2015 and I can’t recall a mode or event being gated arbitrarily by GP level. Player level - yes; specific character star and gear levels - yes but GP has been used to seed or spread players across different divisions or levels but not to bar them from participating at all. But perhaps I’ve missed that. Also those have tended to be chunky events and not just some little old catch up on shards event. It feels disproportionate.

Geonosis TB, certain legendary characters, every GL, Conquest. All gated behind either GP and/or gear requirements.

Guild GP for TB yes I concede that. But even then a player of any GP can join a guild if they let them and join in. Of course character and gear qualifications for other events but they make some sense. I still maintain this is a departure in that it doesn’t make any sense

"Ultra;c-2362612" wrote:

"12thParsec;c-2362578" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362575" wrote:
4 million GP is fine

Lol you literally can’t find a single thing that you disagree with CG?

how they handle cheating
not following up with gear promises from road ahead
cost of refresh for proving grounds

i have a whole list but you never bother paying attention and think a moderator tag means i defend them blindly

You’ve defended how they’ve handled cheating before as well. Saying no smaller studios do more, or implying. You are nearly 100% for toeing the CG line in your paid gig.

Also feels like you try and draw out negative comments with your unnecessary posts which result in people saying stuff they shouldn’t so you can ban hammer folks.

These forums are kinda a joke between CG only communicating with random streamers and such and then mods in here banning anyone who steps outta line.

"Ghost666;c-2363721" wrote:

"Wed_Santa;c-2363680" wrote:
Sorry but how is that patronising? (...) You don’t need GLs (although they make it much easier) and in my opinion there is no just reason for a GP gate. If anything, cG are denying themselves crystal income from the refresh.

The patronising comes from saying "very easy"...when using a top of the line squad...which very few players will have. I may have missed something...but i dont think anyone cleared it with a RELIC3 team...without a GL. AFAIK you need either very high Relics or a GL...so "very easy" it isnt...and saying it is easy after you have a team that took long investment (either time or money) is patronising. VERY EASY means you can use something that was easy to get...anything is very easy with a R8 team or top GL.
With the 4M requirement i agree...the requirement is to "force" players that made "surgical" upgrades and got a GL (or top team) with minimum investment to be unable to play the event...and "force" some of them to buy something for the extra GP. It is really unecessary...
BTW...i have been trying to find a post that tells me the "right teams" or "strategy"...all i could find is people saying the teams wont work at lower relic level...so feel free to enlighten me on a team that can beat the event at Relic3 and no GL. I can make R5 on some teams...(unfornately...also no JKL or GAS...saw that)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1K_kwy9TMc&ab_channel=Skelturix

CLS vs Gideon (no crazy high relics required as the most important thing is to keep Gideons TM stripped so he doesn't get a turn and remoralizes)

also CLS vs Maul (higher relics might be required to have enough dmg to shoot down Maul, but maybe also doable with smth like R3-4)

otherwise Padme is a natural counter to Maul and all the assist attacks feeding GK with bonus protection (modding GK for HP for more bonus protection since it's HP based)

"zatchy;c-2363754" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362612" wrote:

"12thParsec;c-2362578" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362575" wrote:
4 million GP is fine

Lol you literally can’t find a single thing that you disagree with CG?

how they handle cheating
not following up with gear promises from road ahead
cost of refresh for proving grounds

i have a whole list but you never bother paying attention and think a moderator tag means i defend them blindly

You’ve defended how they’ve handled cheating before as well. Saying no smaller studios do more, or implying. You are nearly 100% for toeing the CG line in your paid gig

lol

I questioned someone claiming smaller studios are handling cheating better without having any data to back it up, but that doesn't mean I am defending CG's handling of cheating

I just don't like arguments created from made-up numbers and claims without any evidence to support the argument

And yes, mods do moderate people who step out of line because the line has been drawn and you shouldn't cross it

You can criticize CG all you want as long as it is within the Terms of Service (aka the line); Many have criticized CG without being moderated

"Ultra;c-2363757" wrote:

"zatchy;c-2363754" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362612" wrote:

"12thParsec;c-2362578" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362575" wrote:
4 million GP is fine

Lol you literally can’t find a single thing that you disagree with CG?

how they handle cheating
not following up with gear promises from road ahead
cost of refresh for proving grounds

i have a whole list but you never bother paying attention and think a moderator tag means i defend them blindly

You’ve defended how they’ve handled cheating before as well. Saying no smaller studios do more, or implying. You are nearly 100% for toeing the CG line in your paid gig

lol

I questioned someone claiming smaller studios are handling cheating better without having any data to back it up, but that doesn't mean I am defending CG's handling of cheating

I just don't like arguments created from made-up numbers and claims without any evidence to support the argument

And yes, mods do moderate people who step out of line because the line has been drawn and you shouldn't cross it

You can criticize CG all you want as long as it is within the Terms of Service (aka the line); Many have criticized CG without being moderated

And can you explain how your comment in this thread is helpful to the situation? You are not unbiased and if you draw ire of someone form your comment, do you ban them?

I think the mods should probably moderate and not post. Cause posting something without context or explanation that is clearly you siding with CG seems like the type of stuff that will draw out some unruly comments no?

Also saying provide examples when basically CG does nothing against cheaters is kinda hard to believe and regardless of how you feel, I’ll still think of that as defending them.

Their cheating measures are only talk to a dev on the forums who may or may not be active and won’t respond. Any company committing any resources to cheating is doing more than CG. So while I don’t have specifics I’d be shocked if some smaller companies / studios won’t doing a lot more. Nothing versus anything isn’t a large reach.

"1313;c-2363759" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2363757" wrote:

"zatchy;c-2363754" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362612" wrote:

"12thParsec;c-2362578" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2362575" wrote:
4 million GP is fine

Lol you literally can’t find a single thing that you disagree with CG?

how they handle cheating
not following up with gear promises from road ahead
cost of refresh for proving grounds

i have a whole list but you never bother paying attention and think a moderator tag means i defend them blindly

You’ve defended how they’ve handled cheating before as well. Saying no smaller studios do more, or implying. You are nearly 100% for toeing the CG line in your paid gig

lol

I questioned someone claiming smaller studios are handling cheating better without having any data to back it up, but that doesn't mean I am defending CG's handling of cheating

I just don't like arguments created from made-up numbers and claims without any evidence to support the argument

And yes, mods do moderate people who step out of line because the line has been drawn and you shouldn't cross it

You can criticize CG all you want as long as it is within the Terms of Service (aka the line); Many have criticized CG without being moderated

You or other modders just deleted 3 hot topics about playerbase feedback on Proving grounds.There was around 400 messages,maybe more.The main opinions were 4mil gp should be lowered to 2 mil and return CAT to weekly shipments.I hope this feedback will be delivered to developers.

I think it got merged. This thread showed me 400 unread messages. But I was up to date on the last page

Not that it matters to anyone, especially CG, but Proving Grounds was the straw that broke my spirit that was hanging on by a thread. Utterly ridiculous way to make CAT "farmable", but exactly what I needed to convince me to finally delete the game from my device. Good luck to folks that believe that this direction is good and healthy for the game.

"Salatious_Scrum;c-2363745" wrote:

"Wed_Santa;c-2363743" wrote:
Have they? I’ve been playing the game on and off since November 2015 and I can’t recall a mode or event being gated arbitrarily by GP level. Player level - yes; specific character star and gear levels - yes but GP has been used to seed or spread players across different divisions or levels but not to bar them from participating at all. But perhaps I’ve missed that. Also those have tended to be chunky events and not just some little old catch up on shards event. It feels disproportionate.

Geonosis TB, certain legendary characters, every GL, Conquest. All gated behind either GP and/or gear requirements.

GLs and Legendaries are not gated by GP.

The only one is Geo TB but that is a bit different, because it's the whole guild and not a single player. As a guild it's much easier to get the required GP.
It is also a lot less that is required if you spread it across the guild. DS is 80M, that would be 1.6M per player, LS is 100M, that would be 2M per player.


As to the other points before, I had typed an answer but they merged the threads while I typed it seems, so it is gone now.

I'll try again:
1)No they are not more readily available. They were in the rewards crates, in the Conquest store for crystals and tokens, then they were shortly in shipments. Everyone could get them! Now they are only in PG which is gated by GP. How is that more available?

2)And I ask you again why they even give shards out in normal if those people are not supposed to get those characters? Nobody denies the exclusive nature of those shards for hard mode players. And nobody said that was unfair. Everyone accepted that.
What is unfair is that they had the character for a year now and the rest wanted to be able to start getting them too but they are now gated behind GP.
Is it not enough to have had the character exclusively for a year or even longer? Why begrudge them still?

3) I don't think there is a need to split hairs how long exactly a GL farm takes. There are people who do it faster and there are people who need longer. That's not the point and you know it. Even if it would take 1.5 years for a GL... for a GL you need many characters at Relic levels, some very high, and ships etc. So that's not even closely comparable and yet again, it takes a lot shorter or maybe even the same time to get all that in comparison to 1 character.

I will do just that, thank you. How else am I supposed to be heard if I don't say anything? So yes, if I, as a customer, am not satisfied or have a problem or feedback, I will say something. After all, you can't expect others to read your mind. ?