Question about Jyn

"scuba;845698" wrote:


there are lots of debuffs going around. with chirrut on this team and possibly GK you can add 3+ buffs to them with one ability from chirrut or GK that is 15%+ protection.
plus anytime chirriut uses his basic he has a chance to give HoT, that is 4% health heal and 5% protection heal out of turn
with GK and chirrut every crit hit that is 10% protection gain.
GK throwing out FS from his basic is also another 5% protection heal out of turn.

It's not so much that she doesn't have a use, it's the comparison to other Zeta's. Putting a Zeta on any character is a large investment, but for Jyn's to be useful it seems you need some very specific team comps, and the general seems like a key component.

Compare to other Zeta's, Boba is useful in any team with Boba, plenty of characters can take advantage of Vader, and Barriss seems like she can massively boost survivability to virtually any well modded team.

It's not that her Zeta isn't good, I'm sure some nasty stuff can be done with it. It just seems like from what I'm hearing there are a lot of other options that jump out as better, faster, and easier to take advantage of.

But I'm still on the fence about where to go. Maybe I'm wrong about all of it.

"fascizio;846684" wrote:

"scuba;845698" wrote:


there are lots of debuffs going around. with chirrut on this team and possibly GK you can add 3+ buffs to them with one ability from chirrut or GK that is 15%+ protection.
plus anytime chirriut uses his basic he has a chance to give HoT, that is 4% health heal and 5% protection heal out of turn
with GK and chirrut every crit hit that is 10% protection gain.
GK throwing out FS from his basic is also another 5% protection heal out of turn.

It's not so much that she doesn't have a use, it's the comparison to other Zeta's. Putting a Zeta on any character is a large investment, but for Jyn's to be useful it seems you need some very specific team comps, and the general seems like a key component.

Compare to other Zeta's, Boba is useful in any team with Boba, plenty of characters can take advantage of Vader, and Barriss seems like she can massively boost survivability to virtually any well modded team.

It's not that her Zeta isn't good, I'm sure some nasty stuff can be done with it. It just seems like from what I'm hearing there are a lot of other options that jump out as better, faster, and easier to take advantage of.

But I'm still on the fence about where to go. Maybe I'm wrong about all of it.

I can see that. I am on the fence as to who gets my next one. I think a lot will depend on how farmable the rest of the R1 squad becomes.

I think with zeta's you also have to take into account that new character zeta's will be meh compared to old character zeta's. They will be good but nothing like vader lead or bariss unique.

New characters are coming out with awesome abilities.
Old characters the zeta are crazy to try and help them catch up.Crazy zeta is a way to make useless characters viable again.

BTW I believe the dev's messed up and boba execute Omega upgrade should have been a zeta like any other ability that requires level 80 or above.
would you have use a zeta on boba to gain "Cooldown - 1, reduce all cooldowns by 1 on a finishing blow, and can't be Evaded"? It is great an all but would not have been my first zeta.

"fascizio;846684" wrote:

"scuba;845698" wrote:


there are lots of debuffs going around. with chirrut on this team and possibly GK you can add 3+ buffs to them with one ability from chirrut or GK that is 15%+ protection.
plus anytime chirriut uses his basic he has a chance to give HoT, that is 4% health heal and 5% protection heal out of turn
with GK and chirrut every crit hit that is 10% protection gain.
GK throwing out FS from his basic is also another 5% protection heal out of turn.

It's not so much that she doesn't have a use, it's the comparison to other Zeta's. Putting a Zeta on any character is a large investment, but for Jyn's to be useful it seems you need some very specific team comps, and the general seems like a key component.

Compare to other Zeta's, Boba is useful in any team with Boba, plenty of characters can take advantage of Vader, and Barriss seems like she can massively boost survivability to virtually any well modded team.

It's not that her Zeta isn't good, I'm sure some nasty stuff can be done with it. It just seems like from what I'm hearing there are a lot of other options that jump out as better, faster, and easier to take advantage of.

But I'm still on the fence about where to go. Maybe I'm wrong about all of it.

Synergy is also important. While Barriss' zeta might be strictly better, her general kit is not as good. So if you have a team that synergizes well with the rest of Jyn's kit (mostly R1 characters), her zeta will make that team better than randomly zeta'ing Barriss and tossing her in that same team. Now, whether a team built around Jyn+zeta is better than a team built around Barriss+zeta is a different story, but not all of us have all characters maxed at G11 to just play around and see.

"Acrofales;846790" wrote:

Synergy is also important. While Barriss' zeta might be strictly better, her general kit is not as good. So if you have a team that synergizes well with the rest of Jyn's kit (mostly R1 characters), her zeta will make that team better than randomly zeta'ing Barriss and tossing her in that same team. Now, whether a team built around Jyn+zeta is better than a team built around Barriss+zeta is a different story, but not all of us have all characters maxed at G11 to just play around and see.

Very true, but Barris does synergize a bit with chaze. The auto dispell makes it harder to pin them down with ability/buff blocks and shocks, and can make it a little easier to get that TenUp out of Chirrut's special 1.

/shrug I dunno, I'm still stuck, lol