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These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an average of 5th-10th place for Sith and Cpit.

New raid numbers are based on 130 million guild crate, and 4.5 million personal crate.

I undervalued the old gear boxes since finding data on those is sketchy.

Old rewards
18.7 million credits
1.4 million ship credits
35 aeromagnifiers
1836 carbanti level gear
42 kyros
And all gear in boxes (240 carbanti level and 110 fusion furnace level based on very low numbers)

New rewards
38.5 aeromagnifiers (mk3 currency)
632 fusion furnace or equivalent (mk2 currency)
3852 carbanti level gear (mk1 currency)

So the long story short, is for this situation:

Mk1 currency is slightly better rewards
Mk2 currency is about the same
Mk3 currency is about the same

But, if you make less than those crates, which a lot of guilds will, it is not a good value. Anything less than 130 million guild crate deletes the aeromagnifier level mk3 tokens.

So any guild that could do cpit, but does not get the above rewards is suffering.

Hopefully we will see a change","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2023-05-06T03:38:01.000+01:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:raids","text":"raids","time":"2016-04-29T09:08:49.000+01:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3935064_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":7655},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"So I did the math on the old system vs. the new. For the record I am in a 500 million gp guild.

These numbers are per month, based on 10 Rancor, 8 Tank, 6 Sith, and 5 Cpit per month. With an average of 5th-10th place for Sith and Cpit.

New raid numbers are based on 130 million guild crate, and 4.5 million personal crate.

I undervalued the old gear boxes since finding data on those is sketchy.

Old rewards
18.7 million credits
1.4 million ship credits
35 aeromagnifiers
1836 carbanti level gear
42 kyros
And all gear in boxes (240 carbanti level and 110 fusion furnace level based on very low numbers)

New rewards
38.5 aeromagnifiers (mk3 currency)
632 fusion furnace or equivalent (mk2 currency)
3852 carbanti level gear (mk1 currency)

So the long story short, is for this situation:

Mk1 currency is slightly better rewards
Mk2 currency is about the same
Mk3 currency is about the same

But, if you make less than those crates, which a lot of guilds will, it is not a good value. Anything less than 130 million guild crate deletes the aeromagnifier level mk3 tokens.

So any guild that could do cpit, but does not get the above rewards is suffering.

Hopefully we will see a change"},"Conversation:conversation:3935064":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3935064","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3935064"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2023-05-19T05:42:54.000+01:00","lastPostTime":"2023-05-19T05:42:54.000+01:00","unreadReplyCount":102,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935064":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3935064","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3935064_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3935064_1","lastEditTime":"2023-05-06T03:38:01.000+01:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3935120":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3935120","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3935064"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:43529"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3935120,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Raid rewards comparison with data","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3935120"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3935064"},"body":"I have a lot aeros, and i think probably i wont use them to relic 8 for a long time. But still regardles of what i have ,think that many guilds were making effort to beat cpit and it is so unfair and strange to take rewards from cpit, put the gate for aeros and force players to make more upgrades to get those aeros.
Anyone expierienced something similar in other mobile games?","body@stringLength":"384","rawBody":"I have a lot aeros, and i think probably i wont use them to relic 8 for a long time. But still regardles of what i have ,think that many guilds were making effort to beat cpit and it is so unfair and strange to take rewards from cpit, put the gate for aeros and force players to make more upgrades to get those aeros.
Anyone expierienced something similar in other mobile games? 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