SEE definitely needs a buff!

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I just watched today 2 videos: one where nighsisters beat SEE. Another one where Padme beats SEE

I ve never seen a GL squad being beaten by so many teams

Oh ffs, another team.. seriously. This is just a joke now, an utter joke.


CG!! DO SOMETHING!

Maybe post the video, they are not likely to take action without some proof that it is not a situational defeat.

Again, mods and team composition....without that visible, there will always be questions.

https://youtu.be/rDgjcihhu8w

I know, SEE doesnt have ult, and if he gets it its most likely gonna wipe the NS clean. But as you can see SEE is forced to link zombie, who keeps dying shortly after, which completely cripples his ult gain. The AI also keeps targetting the linked target (in this case Talzin) which doesnt help either.

Without Traya lead you dont get that constant healing, which allows plague to nullify Trayas unique, and without Drevan lead you wont see that crazy dmg and deathmark which is what used to shut down NS. Think its worth keeping an eye on at the very least.

It also seems like sow discord is not maxed, on top of the ultimate, unless I'm missing something

@1:24 a deceived zombie doesnt spread deceived when using an ability.

So it seems a little bit like there is more upgrading that could have been done there.

Also a little luck with AV and daka always being left out of big MM attacks, but maybe vader will always act like that.

To be fair, Deceived doesnt do anything against NS, unless you meam those 2% ult charges will be a gamechanger. Since the NS keep dying deceived will disappear regardless. Assajj getting killed wouldnt matter since Daka will just revive her, so as long as Daka doent get focused youre fine and the longer the game goes on the harder it will be for Vader to put her down even when he focus her.

in that match, there was always at least 2 NS alive, meaning deceived would keep spreading, so yes it would do something, and yes it would help with the charge if they had the ultimate.

yeah, thats what i mean it seemed a little luck was there as Daka was never really hit, and had she been taken down, might have been a different story. but i'm not saying thats enough for a GL to be riding on that luck. just making observations.

What Im saying is that Deceived, aside from that 2% ult charge, has no effect on NS. All it does against them is prevent counter attacks which from what Im aware of NS dont do that much.

for a toon that is designed to have an ultimate, charging it is very important. so is having it. so in the end it will be important, and this video is showing a match against a "favorable" target. it would be nice to see it against a fully upgraded ult SEE. where a true comparison can be made.

I counted the abilities after 1:24 (including Talzins mass assist but not the assists from her leadership since dead NS wont have deceived) and assumed every living NS will be permanently deceived (which in reality they wont) and by my calculation, including the extra 8% from linked targets, SEE would have gotten his ult the same turn Assajj killed him. Youre free to correct me if Im wrong, but even withing the margin of error SEEs team will be long dead and he beaten up before he gets his ult, and then he needs to take another turn to actually use his AoE.