SEE definitely needs a buff!

"Eweff;c-2184068" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2184066" wrote:

"VelvetDiamond_R6;c-2184062" wrote:
Kyno, apologies. Lets keep this back on topic.

I just feel as all this effort farming these horrible characters for him were for nothing right now, just a bit angry he has like 6 or 7 counters or more. God knows, i lost track now.

He should not be so easy to kill, nor should his team.

I agree they should keep an eye on this.

GEOS - do you have a video?

NS - There seems to be some upgrades missing on that SEE, unless I missed something.


The main reason I said what I said, was if somehow getting the ultimate upgraded means that 4 of these counters go away, then it's not fair to say he should be buffed based on his non ultimate situation.

They are designed to have the ultimate, it's not fair to look at them without it (when looking for changes to be made), when it's one of the major parts of their design.

Weren’t you arguing earlier that GLs under other leads could be viable? But SEE and JML won’t get their ultimates under other leads.

Sorry missed this one.

Yes I did say something like that in another thread, and it was a discussion about, them being designed to be in that spot, but you will have the options to trade off the ultimate's to some extent and use them elsewhere. if someone was using them not in the leader spot and calling them trash, I would say the same thing you just quoted. that doesn't mean they will not have teams where they can be not be in the lead and still make a good team, just maybe more situational.

either way, judging a team/toon not really as they were designed, is never that helpful.
i.e. - how are nightsisters, under Ashoka lead?